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Traumatic cardiac arrest

Paul Bailey paul.bailey at gmail.com
Fri May 29 07:31:51 BST 2015


Thanks to those who replied to my original question - particularly Susan
Schiller from Boston.

All the best

Paul

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Dain, Cathy <dainc at kgh.kari.net> wrote:

> a schlemiel is someone who drops his hot soup on a schlimazel.
>
> c
>
>
> Cathy Dain
> Clinical Nurse Specialist
> Trauma Services
> Kingston General Hospital
> dainc at kgh.kari.net
> w: (613) 549-6666 ext. 4837
> c:  (613) 650-9462
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>
> ________________________________________
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] on
> behalf of Gross, Ronald [Ronald.Gross at baystatehealth.org]
> Sent: May 28, 2015 21:11
> To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]
> Subject: Re: Traumatic cardiac arrest
>
> Pret had it right.  As usual.
>
> Ronald I. Gross, MD, FACS
> Chief, Division of Trauma, Acute Care Surgery & Surgical Critical Care
> Baystate Medical Center
> Associate Professor of Surgery
> Tufts School of Medicine
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> ronald.gross at baystatehealth.org<mailto:ronald.gross at baystatehealth.org>
>
> On May 28, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Mary Langcake <mezza58 at gmail.com<mailto:
> mezza58 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I have no idea but it's such a great word! I'll have to ask Dr Google.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 29 May 2015, at 00:10, Gross, Ronald <Ronald.Gross at baystatehealth.org
> <mailto:Ronald.Gross at baystatehealth.org>> wrote:
>
> OK, so now the 64 thousand dollar question - do you know the difference
> between a schlemiel and a schlimazel?
>
> C'mon, Pret - your chance to shine!!!!!!!!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org<mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org>
> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Mary Langcake
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:56 AM
> To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG<http://TRAUMA.ORG>]
> Subject: Re: Traumatic cardiac arrest
>
> He'd be a bit of a schlemiel if he spelt it wrong :-)
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 28 May 2015, at 01:21, Gross, Ronald <Ronald.Gross at baystatehealth.org
> <mailto:Ronald.Gross at baystatehealth.org>> wrote:
>
> Hehehe!  And you even spelled schmuck correctly!!!
>
> Ronald I. Gross, MD, FACS
> Chief, Division of Trauma, Acute Care Surgery & Surgical Critical Care
> Baystate Medical Center
> Associate Professor of Surgery
> Tufts School of Medicine
> 759 Chestnut Street<x-apple-data-http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2015-May/detectors://0/0>
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> ronald.gross at baystatehealth.org<mailto:ronald.gross at baystatehealth.org
> ><mailto:ronald.gross at baystatehealth.org>
>
> On May 27, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Bjorn, Pret <pbjorn at emhs.org<mailto:
> pbjorn at emhs.org><mailto:pbjorn at emhs.org>> wrote:
>
> There are certain advantages to being a schmuck.  I have carefully
> cultivated my specious credibility and irreverent approach.  Makes the List
> safer for me than for esteemed doctors and other leaders such as
> yourselves.  Plus it's kind of more fun.
>
> You're welcome.
>
> Pret
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org<mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> ><mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org> [mailto:
> trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Gross, Ronald
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:52 AM
> To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG<http://TRAUMA.ORG><http://TRAUMA.ORG>]
> Subject: Re: Traumatic cardiac arrest
>
> As I have chosen to be at present!  :-)
>
> Ronald I. Gross, MD, FACS
> Chief, Division of Trauma, Acute Care Surgery & Surgical Critical Care
> Baystate Medical Center Associate Professor of Surgery Tufts School of
> Medicine
> 759 Chestnut Street<x-apple-data-http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2015-May/detectors://0/0>
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> 413-794-4022<tel:413-794-4022>
> ronald.gross at baystatehealth.org<mailto:ronald.gross at baystatehealth.org
> ><mailto:ronald.gross at baystatehealth.org><mailto:
> ronald.gross at baystatehealth.org>
>
> On May 27, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Timothy Hardcastle <Hardcastle at ukzn.ac.za
> <mailto:Hardcastle at ukzn.ac.za><mailto:Hardcastle at ukzn.ac.za><mailto:
> Hardcastle at ukzn.ac.za>> wrote:
>
> And then you wonder why I am generally silent on this topic..... :)
>
> Regards,
> Tim
> Dr Timothy Hardcastle
> MB,ChB(Stell); M.Med(Chir)(Stell); PhD, FCS(SA), Trauma Surgery(HPCSA)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org<mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> ><mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org><mailto:
> trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
> On Behalf Of Bjorn, Pret
> Sent: 27 May 2015 14:31
> To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG<http://TRAUMA.ORG><http://TRAUMA.ORG><
> http://TRAUMA.ORG>]
> Subject: RE: Traumatic cardiac arrest
>
> Let me just wonder aloud whether REBOA isn't just 21st-Century PASG's with
> an immensely higher degree of difficulty and a variety of additional risks?
>
> I'll eagerly await data from folks bolder than we are; but let's note that
> this is the same Trauma-List that regularly argues over a gram or two of
> Tranexamic Acid...
>
> Pret Bjorn, RN
> Bangor, ME USA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org<mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> ><mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org><mailto:
> trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
> On Behalf Of Paul Bailey
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:45 PM
> To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG<http://TRAUMA.ORG><http://TRAUMA.ORG><
> http://TRAUMA.ORG>]
> Subject: Re: Traumatic cardiac arrest
>
> Excuse the question - how many out there are performing REBOA prehospital
> / how many in their trauma centre / ED?
>
> Cheers
>
> PB
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:32 AM, Blueflightmedic <trauma at emergencyunit.com
> <mailto:trauma at emergencyunit.com><mailto:trauma at emergencyunit.com><mailto:
> trauma at emergencyunit.com>>
> wrote:
>
> All together now - REBOA.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org<mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> ><mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org><mailto:
> trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org> [mailto:
> trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org<mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> ><mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org><mailto:
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> On Behalf Of Paul Bailey
> Sent: 26 May 2015 14:07
> To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG<http://TRAUMA.ORG><http://TRAUMA.ORG><
> http://TRAUMA.ORG>]
> Subject: Traumatic cardiac arrest
>
> Greetings to the list - long time lurker, rare contributor.
>
> I have a question for those of you involved in the pre-hospital / EMS
> sphere - with regards to cardiac arrest.
>
> Does your system treat traumatic cardiac arrest differently to "medical"
> cardiac arrest, and if so are you willing to share your thoughts.
>
> Particularly interested in evidence base, if any.
>
> Also interested to see if anyone is working in a system that administers
> blood pre-hospital and what logistics problems that might throw up.
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
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