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Mon Jan 23 03:34:53 GMT 2012

If she in medical school, it must go through the Dean's office, not my
office

Norman

Norman McSwain MD, FACS
Professor of Surgery, Tulane University
Trauma director, Spirit of Charity Trauma Center, ILH
504 988 5111

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From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
[mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Krin135 at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:58 PM
To: trauma-list at trauma.org
Subject: Re: Trauma Symbol

Dr Vallee:

Having a spent fair amount of time in the Big Easy (B.K.-  Before
Katrina), and knowing how the City has finally started recovering....AND
having been associated with the LSU Medical Center System from 1987 to
2005 in  one form or another (not to mention corresponding with Dr,
McSwain on this list for over 15 years now....)

I believe that your daughter will have a sterling experience during her
rotation with Drs McSwain, Duchenne, et al.

ck

In a message dated 01/22/12 20:51:15 Central Standard Time,
nmcswai at tulane.edu writes:

I would  be happy to assist in any way possible

Norman

Norman McSwain MD,  FACS
Professor of Surgery, Tulane University
Trauma director, Spirit of  Charity Trauma Center, ILH
504 988 5111

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From:  trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
[mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On  Behalf Of DIBBS VALLEE
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:25 PM
To:  Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]
Subject: Re: Trauma Symbol

Hi,
My  daughter wants to be a trauma surgeon and I noted you are located in
New  Orleans. I have sent out a request to the list serv however since
we live  in Louisiana I would like to extend the request personally to
you. 
Thanks  for your consideration. Here is the request....

Hi all I have a rising  freshman at Columbia interested in becoming a
trauma surgeon. She was  inspired by her "uncle" John Pryor. Her high
school has "May project" where  she is to do a two week externship in
something of interest. If any trauma  surgeon can mentor/proctor her it
would be appreciated. Locally our general  surgeons do trauma call and
we do not have a local fellowship program.  

MONIQUE P. DIBBS VALLEE,  M.D., F.A.A.P 

On Jan 22, 2012,  at 6:14 PM, "McSwain, Norman E"  <nmcswai at tulane.edu>
wrote:

> Sorry I try to type too fast.  That should be PHTLS
> 
> Norman
> 
> Norman McSwain  MD, FACS
> Professor of Surgery, Tulane University Trauma director,  Spirit of 
> Charity Trauma Center, ILH
> 504 988 5111
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]  On Behalf Of McSwain, Norman 
> E
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:12  PM
> To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]
> Subject: RE: Trauma  Symbol
> 
> I agree with Ken. We need something new that denotes  trauma care of 
> today  and our dedication to the patient in all  aspects of trama. 
> When

> we have agreed to what it is, I am sure  that the PHLS Executive 
> Committee will want it to become a part of  PHTLS publications as well
> 
> Norman
> 
> Norman  McSwain MD, FACS
> Professor of Surgery, Tulane University Trauma  director, Spirit of 
> Charity Trauma Center, ILH
> 504 988  5111
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]  On Behalf Of KMATTOX at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:56  PM
> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
> Subject: Re: Trauma  Symbol
> 
> We all might wish at this historic point in time to  create a NEW 
> stylized
> trauma icon.     It  could be SIMPLE, but carry a big  message.
It 
> might be as  simple as a big  Capital letter T with a snake around it.
>  
> 
> 
> In a message dated 1/22/2012 5:44:36 P.M. Central  Standard Time, 
> jonathan at marrow.com writes:
> 
>  Many  editions of Baillie and Love's Short textbook of Surgery  
> carried

> the wound man  as Fig 1.  Used by generations of  med students in the
UK.
> Mine is  from 1977.  They  attribute the image to a treatise on war 
> surgery from the middle  ages.
> 
> For those who like full references, even if not   from a peer-reviewed
> journal:
> 
> Wound Man - Johannes  Wechtlin - The  Fieldbook of Wound Surgery - 
> 1517
> 
>  Wechtlin's Wound Man is one of the  supporters of the full coat of 
> arms of the College of Emergency Medicine in  the UK and  Ireland.  On

> the other side of the shield, the supporter is  a  Whole Man, all 
> injuries healed.  More detail available,  if the list is  interested.
> 
> Google search for "wound  man" instead of "trauma man" gives  many 
> fascinating variants on  this traditional image originating from 
> various cultures.
>  Poor fellows, they can certainly make an audience sit up but  you may

> want to think rather carefully about the purpose and message of a 
> widely used or even "universal" symbol.
> 
> I will watch  discussions  with interest.
> Good wishes
> Jonathan  Marrow
> Emergency Physician,  Wirral, UK
> 
> 
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew J  Bowman"  <andrewj.bowman at gmail.com>
> To: "Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]"   <trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Cc: "Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]"   <trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012  8:17  PM
> Subject: Re: Trauma Symbol
> 
> 
>>  Did a google search for  "trauma man". I think it is taken from a
>  medieval woodcutting. 
>> 
>> Andrew J Bowman
>>  
>> On Jan 22, 2012, at 14:51, Dean  Lutrin  <deanlutrin at gmail.com>
wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi   Andrew
>>> 
>>> Where is that pic from.   Fascinating.
>>> 
>>> Dean
>>>  
>>> South  Africa
>>> 
>>> On 22 Jan  2012, at 9:46 PM, Andrew J Bowman
>  <andrewj.bowman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>  
>>>> I've  always liked this.
>>>>  
>>>> <photo.JPG>
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew J  Bowman
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