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Alright, , Lets Call it a Draw

Doug Condit Jr thoracicsurgpa at msn.com
Mon Dec 17 03:33:38 GMT 2012

LT  as a New Yawker, I object to your including NYC on your list! Gun crime has dropped so much here in the last 20 years, NYC I don't even think we made it into the top 100 US cities last year!

For example:  Murders:  1990       1995      2000      2005      2010                                        2262       1180        673        539       536 Regards; ~doug~                     
 > Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:22:42 -0500
> From: LTorrey at maine.rr.com
> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
> Subject: Re: Alright, , Lets Call it a Draw
> On 12/16/2012 4:59 PM, Richard Wigle MD FACS wrote:
> > So we're back to"guns don't kill people, people kill people" Could we
> > remove any version of this from the discussion. It's the stock answer
> > immediately spit out by the gun lobby anytime the subject comes up
> > and means absolutely nothing. Likewise- "if they don't have guns
> > they'll find some other way" and "if you criminalize guns etc etc"
> > (which is by the way not what most gun regulation people want) should
> > be off the table, they likewise are fallacious arguments and add
> > nothing to the discussion
> Sir,
> I'll be happy to take those off the table, if we also remove the false 
> notion that increasingly restrictive gun laws actually reduce gun crime 
> (see Wash DC, NYC, Detroit, LA, Chicago, etc,. etc.)...and that trying 
> to prohibit possession of something that is already prevalent in the 
> population is realistically possible (Google "Al Capone" or 
> "Prohibition" for more).
> This young man in CT broke a great number of laws in the commission of 
> this terrible act.  You have yet to explain how making a few more laws - 
> and what those laws would be - would have likely made some positive 
> impact on the course of events.
> Respectfully,
> LT
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