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Mon Oct 10 23:22:01 BST 2011

The jar is there for purposes like dinner, etc.  My fiancee is my
research associate and the third person we work with isn't here in
person often enough to make a significant number of contributions so
the jar becomes something of a backup savings account.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Forrest Robleto <farcpr at gmail.com> wrote:
> Who gets the quarters when the jar is full?
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> Forrest Robleto, NCEE
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> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Stephen Richey <stephen.richey at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> There's a joking "rule" in our research group (you know....all three
>> of us) that if someone utters the "a" word (accident), we have to put
>> a quarter in a jar that is kept in the office.  Think of it as the
>> injury researcher's version of a "cussin' jar".
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Bjorn, Pret <pbjorn at emh.org> wrote:
>> > As usual, I don't really disagree with either of you.  In fact, I use
>> > "MVC" pretty much exclusively, and emphasize prevention at every
>> > opportunity.  I just don't think the distinction at hand is particularly
>> > compelling.
>> >
>> > Comes right down to it, the debate is almost entirely semantic; and
>> > while I would never suggest that anyone is wasting his time or breath,
>> > there are far more frightful windmills to be smited.  Or is it 'smote?'
>> >
>> > Just me, and very respectfully,
>> >
>> > Pret
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
>> > [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Gross, Ronald
>> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:33 AM
>> > To: 'trauma-list at trauma.org'
>> > Subject: Re: MVC versus MVA
>> >
>> > Keep tilting, my friend!  THAT is how and why "s*#T" happens for the
>> > better eventually. And remember that you have a whole lotta folks that
>> > are tilting with you!
>> > Sent from my Blackberry.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Robert Smith [mailto:rfsmithmd at comcast.net]
>> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:01 AM
>> > To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG] <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> > Subject: Re: MVC versus MVA
>> >
>> > I actually think the language we choose to describe things is
>> > "important". It sets a framework for our actions and approaches.
>> >
>> > If a workplace has live electrical wires lying around, no one intends
>> > for a worker to be electrocuted but by allowing that to happen you have
>> > made it far more likely to occur.
>> >
>> > If you drive you car when you're blind drunk it's less likely that
>> > you'll make it home safely.
>> >
>> > When the same kids keep showing up on our trauma units with GSWs the
>> > trauma community realized this was not simply a recurring "accident" and
>> > was moved to become more focussed on violence prevention.
>> >
>> > Many thought the publication by the National Academy of Science in 1966
>> > "Injury: The Neglected Disease of Modern Society" was a seminal event in
>> > our discipline because it offered a disease model in which to approach
>> > the problem of injury. Once it is thought of as a disease, then we begin
>> > to seek causes and try to modify or eliminate them.
>> >
>> > 50% of people (or whatever the number is now) who die from trauma do so
>> > at the scene. So if we care about stopping people from dying from
>> > injury, and we're more than just technicians, we need to care about
>> > that.
>> >
>> > But I'm tilting at windmills. Shit happens.
>> >
>> > Rob
>> >
>> >
>> > But I realize I'm tilting at windmills.
>> > On Oct 10, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Gross, Ronald wrote:
>> >
>> >> OMG Pret!  I needed that this morning. Hope all is well, Ron Sent from
>> >
>> >> my Blackberry.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: Bjorn, Pret [mailto:pbjorn at emh.org]
>> >> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 09:28 AM
>> >> To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG] <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> >> Subject: RE: MVC versus MVA
>> >>
>> >> Injury prevention purists claim that since many automobile-related
>> >> injuries are in fact predictable consequences of improper operation,
>> >> they cannot rightly be considered "accidents."  The term "crash" is
>> >> less subjective in that regard.  It leaves the otherwise presumed
>> >> "victimization" of the patient open to further qualification.
>> >>
>> >> In point of fact, most English dictionaries primarily define accidents
>> >
>> >> as "unintended happenings," the term is no less accurate most of the
>> >> time; but people look for crap to quibble about.
>> >>
>> >> Begs the secondary question: why do we call strokes "CVA's?"
>> >>
>> >> Pret Bjorn, RN
>> >> Bangor, ME USA
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
>> >> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Keith Lamb
>> >> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 9:17 AM
>> >> To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list
>> >> Subject: MVC versus MVA
>> >>
>> >> What is the history of the change in terminology from MVA to MVC? I
>> >> cant find much about it.
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >>
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