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Oh how funny. My Girl Gun Group is going for our concealed weapon class next
Wednesday. I can hardly wait!

cmm

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Robert Smith <rfsmithmd at comcast.net> wrote:

> LOL
>
> On Mar 14, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Larry Torrey wrote:
>
> > Sorry I missed your email as I am out of the office and currently at the
> firing range.
> >
> > I will respond to your email once I return.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > LT
> >
> > On 3/14/2011 1:16 PM, Connie Potter wrote:
> >> I find it fascinating that in a State that has very likely the
> >> highest number of concealed weapons in the US (it is easier to get a
> >> concealed weapon permit in AZ than a drivers license so you can be
> >> insured), not ONE bystander drew on the shooter - in fact not one gun
> >> was seen in the crowd.  Why?  Cowardice?  Lack of familiarity with
> >> dangerous situations?  Want to escape being a target?  The odds that
> >> there were no guns in that crowd in AZ on a day when six people,
> >> including a 9-yo, were killed is about 1:6 or more.  Where were the
> >> guns to be used in "self defense".  What a bunch of nonsense.  Read
> >> the data and respond like responsible trauma professionals to this
> >> Tea Party, Second Amendment issue.  Are the concealed weapons
> >> carriers in the US part of a "well-formed militia" as required in the
> >> Second Amendment?  If so, who is their leader.  Stand up - not just
> >> at a Tea Party parade.
> >>
> >> My sisters in the UK and Germany are safer than I am living so close
> >> to the Mexican border, and yes I have a gun and have know how to use
> >> it since I was 8 when I started lessons.  That doesn't mean I think I
> >> can "pack heat and be a force to be reckoned with" as one ad I saw
> >> stated recently.  These ads pander to the same reckless type of
> >> people who are targeted to buy the SUVs and trucks that you see
> >> speeding and running red lights: " aggressive drivers".
> >>
> >>
> >> Connie Potter, RN, MBA President Trauma Center Association of
> >> America 650 Montana Ave. Suite A Las Cruces, NM 88001 Phone: (575)
> >> 525-9511 Fax: (575) 647-9600
> >>
> >>
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> >> -----Original Message----- From: Charles Brault
> >> [mailto:c_brault at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:57 AM
> >> To: Trauma&  Critical Care mailing list Subject: It's not the gun
> >>
> >> Perhaps We do not have has many "private" bills But we certainly do
> >> not see so many crazy proposed and/or enacted laws
> >>
> >> Our local State governors/premiers are never as
> >> colourful/controversial as the one in the USA Perhaps because you
> >> have greater numbers and greater media coverage???
> >>
> >> But also Because I like to think We (the majority) would not put up
> >> with And OUR main stream radical media Rationaly attacks these wacko
> >> deviance
> >>
> >> If the French can get used to sex (non)Scandales The Italians to a
> >> filandering President, and the American Not
> >>
> >> Just point that we do have entrenched cultural trait
> >>
> >> And one of the American one's Is the acceptance of violence as of
> >> tool of change, protection and freedom Is the acceptance of violence
> >> (.) (period)
> >>
> >> Charles It's customary, read obligatory to blame the politician It's
> >> rare and Taboo to blame the public ! ! ! I think both are human And
> >> both should be questioned And both shuold question themselves
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> March 9, 2011 School of Glock By GAIL COLLINS It's been nearly nine
> >> weeks since that tragic shooting in Tucson, and you may be wondering
> >> whether there's been any gun legislation proposed in the aftermath.
> >>
> >> Well, in Florida, a state representative has introduced a bill that
> >> would impose fines of up to $5 million on any doctor who asks a
> >> patient whether he or she owns a gun. This is certainly a new and
> >> interesting concept, but I don't think we can classify it as a
> >> response to Tucson. Jason Brodeur, the Republican who thought it up,
> >> says it's a response to the health care reform act.
> >>
> >> A sizable chunk of this country seems to feel as though there is
> >> nothing so secure that it can't be endangered by Obamacare. It's only
> >> a matter of time before somebody discovers that giving everyone
> >> access to health insurance poses a terrible threat to the armed
> >> forces, or the soybean crop, or poodles.
> >>
> >> Brodeur's is one of many, many gun bills floating around state
> >> legislatures these days. Virtually all of them seem to be based on
> >> the proposition that one of the really big problems we have in this
> >> country is a lack of weaponry. His nightmare scenario is that thanks
> >> to the "overreaching federal government," insurance companies would
> >> learn who has guns from the doctors and use the information to raise
> >> the owners' rates.
> >>
> >> However, it turns out that the health care law has a provision that
> >> specifically prohibits insurers from reducing any coverage or
> >> benefits because of gun ownership. A St. Petersburg Times reporter,
> >> Aaron Sharockman, looked this up. I had no idea, did you? Apparently
> >> Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid himself stuck this in to make the
> >> gun-lobby folks happy.
> >>
> >> Which they really aren't. The gun lobby will never be happy, unless
> >> the health care law specifically requires every American to have a
> >> pistol on his or her person at all times.
> >>
> >> Great idea! thought State Representative Hal Wick of South Dakota,
> >> who tossed in a bill this year requiring every adult citizen to
> >> purchase a gun. Actually, even Wick admitted this one wasn't going
> >> anywhere. It was mainly a symbolic protest against the you-know-what
> >> law.
> >>
> >> Actual responses to the Tucson shooting - that is, something that
> >> might actually stop similar tragedies in the future or reduce the
> >> carnage - seem to be limited to a proposal in Congress to ban the
> >> sale of the kind of ammunition clip that allowed the gunman to fire
> >> 31 shots in 15 seconds. That bill is stalled at the gate. Perhaps
> >> Congress has been too busy repeatedly voting on bills to repeal the
> >> health care law to think about anything else. But, so far, the
> >> gun-clip ban has zero Republican supporters, which is a problem given
> >> the matter of the Republicans being in the House majority.
> >>
> >> Meanwhile in the states, legislation to get more guns in more places
> >> (public libraries, college campuses) is getting a more enthusiastic
> >> reception.
> >>
> >> The nation's state legislators seem to be troubled by a shortage of
> >> things they can do to make the National Rifle Association happy. Once
> >> you've voted to allow people to carry guns into bars (Georgia),
> >> eliminated the need for getting a permit to carry a concealed weapon
> >> (Arizona) and designated your own official state gun (Utah - awaiting
> >> the governor's signature), it gets hard to come up with new ideas.
> >>
> >> This may be why so many states are now considering laws that would
> >> prohibit colleges and universities from barring guns on campus.
> >>
> >> "It's about people having the right to personal protection," said
> >> Daniel Crocker, the southwest regional director for Students for
> >> Concealed Carry on Campus.
> >>
> >> Concealed Carry on Campus is a national organization of students
> >> dedicated to opening up schools to more weaponry. Every spring it
> >> holds a national Empty Holster Protest "symbolizing that disarming
> >> all law-abiding citizens creates defense-free zones, which are
> >> attractive targets for criminals."
> >>
> >> And you thought the youth of America had lost its idealism. Hang your
> >> head. The core of the great national gun divide comes down to this:
> >> On one side, people's sense of public safety goes up as the number of
> >> guns goes down; the other side responds to every gun tragedy by
> >> reflecting that this might have been averted if only more legally
> >> armed citizens had been on the scene.
> >>
> >> I am on the first side simply because I believe that in a time of
> >> crisis, there is no such thing as a good shot.
> >>
> >> "Police, on average, for every 10 rounds fired, I think, actually
> >> strike something once or twice, and they are highly trained," said
> >> Bill Bratton, the former New York City police commissioner.
> >>
> >> Concealed Carry on Campus envisions a female student being saved from
> >> an armed assailant by a freshman with a concealed weapon permit. I
> >> see a well-intentioned kid with a pistol trying to intervene in a
> >> scary situation and accidentally shooting the victim.
> >>
> >> And, somehow, it'll all turn out to be the health care reform law's
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