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CPR, Morality, Legality, Common Sense, EMS, Medical Control,

johnleslie48 johnleslie48 at gmail.com
Tue Dec 20 13:34:07 GMT 2011


..... and me

John Leslie

0412 528851

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On 20/12/2011, at 21:34, Charles Brault <c_brault at yahoo.com> wrote:

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> 
> 
> From: "KMATTOX at aol.com" <KMATTOX at aol.com>
> To: trauma-list at trauma.org 
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:13 PM
> Subject: CPR, Morality, Legality, Common Sense, EMS, Medical Control, 
> 
> If recognizing death is a"backwards" trait, then count me among the shaman of the distant past and 
> the barber surgeons of the middle ages. 
> **************************
> The fact is
> 
> That most EMS has, and obviously, in some parts, are still struggling with this
> I still remember the time
> The time that is NOW in still many places
> Where ou would bring a dead branch at the ER
> And they would attempt resuscitation (at least 30 min ;-)  )
> Not giving a though to ethics, chances of outcome, chances of bleak prolonged miserable outcomes for the LUCKY 0,0001 survivors ! ! !
> Still the E.R. work on them
> Becaused 
> . . . EMS worked on them
>  
> The biggest trouble on the case described
> Is not NOT working it
> But
> Working it
> AND stopping the futile Hail Mary Rx/Dx manoeuvres
> 
> Abstinence apparently beats Abortion ! ? 
> 
> 
> 
> Quite frankly, I was offended by the tenor of the post which prompted Dr. 
> Gross to react in amazement. I would hope that for the wonderful 
> knowledgeable people on this trauma list server, that the one comment calling us 
> backward is an outlier, or was mere thrown out there to prompt discussion on 
> a slow weekend.
> The Op-Ed piece I wrote for the New York Times supporting the 
> professionalism and the ethos of the EMS and Trauma System in the USA will be put on 
> hold for the time being, until I re read it 10 times, and watch to see the 
> continuing reaction to all of our backwardness.
> **********************************
> 
> Backwarness, Backwarness, Backwarness,  (3 repeat - 3 times)
> 
> Boy I must have hit something in the nail
> Did not realised that this many people had taken a position on the nail ! ! ?
> 
> Apologies
> 
> Charles
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> 
> Kenneth L. Mattox, MD
> Houston      
> 
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