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Mon Sep 14 17:33:34 BST 2009

New Tulane policy about bringing in $$$ if you are to be paid. Seems like a poor attitude to me. Certainly a change!

Norman

Norman McSwain MD
Trauma Director, Charity Hospital
Professor of Surgery, Tulane University
New Orleans LA
504 988 5111
norman.mcswain at tulane.edu <mailto:norman.mcswain at tulane.edu> 

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From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org on behalf of Dan Burgess
Sent: Mon 9/14/2009 11:29 AM
To: 'Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]'
Subject: RE: Backup Call Pay

I was always under the impression that Trauma Surgeons enjoy the challenge so much that they are practically willing to pay for the privilege.  Why pay people for having so much fun?

Dan P Burgess RN MS CEN
Trauma Program Manager
Memorial Hospital at Gulfport
228-575-2079

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>>> "Gross, Ronald" <Ronald.Gross at baystatehealth.org> 9/14/2009 11:20 AM >>>
Ken,
I think Norm is merely asking that we all be paid according to how much and how hard we work - and even, you, Attila and I could agree with that and stay away from the socialistic approach to medicine that some in D.C. are proposing.
Now that I am thinking about that approach, maybe it IS time to go to law school.....
NAH!!!!
Ron

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From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of KMATTOX at aol.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Backup Call Pay

Sounds like Norm is suggesting a "Pay for Performance" type of social 
system that is also being proposed by the Democratic Congress in Washington  DC.
    I am somewhat conservative in my thinking, and am  about 5 standard
deviations to the right of Attilla the Hun politically, but I  also believe
that they who do not work as hard, should not be paid as  much.    For everyone
to get the same pay, same car, same TV,  same work hours, same food, same
news, same everything, sounds more communistic  than progressive.    

k

k

In a message dated 9/14/2009 11:08:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
nmcswai at tulane.edu writes:

-Should  a surgeon be paid a smaller amount for being on call than a
surgeon who is not  on call?
- Should an on call surgeon be paid extra if they come in and see  a
non-paying patent vs the surgeon who is on call and sees only paying  patients

Bottom line should a surgeon be paid in relationship to the  amount of work
that they do  

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