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Gross, Ronald Ronald.Gross at baystatehealth.orgMon Sep 14 16:12:13 BST 2009
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Norm, You are, as usual, absolutely correct: this on call thing IS extra work, and especially if it is in-house. We have built it into our contract, and there is a stipulation as to the number of calls per month you are mandated to do, after which you will have a salary line increase per call. What that "over and above" is will vary from institution to institution, but I would suggest that 5 nights of in-house call is about all that pretty much everyone will currently accept these days as being their limits. As my last shop, I was up to 7 and 8 in-house calls a month, with two weekends a month pretty much shot. As I said - that WAS my last shop........even I have my limits! Ron -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of McSwain, Norman E Jr. Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:02 AM To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG] Subject: RE: Backup Call Pay Consider the following in your deliberations. When you are taking in-house trauma call, this is work in addition to those who are surgeons and currently do not stay in house every few night away from family and friends. It is additional work Most physicians who do 'fee for service' get paid when they operate after hours. Most trauma surgeons do this work for free and never get paid. Should there not be compensation for extra work. Salaried surgeons should have in their job description if in-house call is required or not and how often they are expected to come in after hours. That way the surgeon will know up front what is expected of him/her. One day, the US surgeons will be forced to adhere to the 80 hour work week, as is required of the residents. Many physicians outside of the US already have hour limitations and do this already but with different hour requirement. Should surgeons, who are required to take in-house call, be paid an additional salary for staying in house vs a dermatologist ( as an example) who would never expect to work after hours? The discussion should separate 1)In-house call, 2) at home call but most of the call nights come in at least once or twice, and 3) at home call and come in only 1 ever month or so. Norman Norman McSwain MD Professor, Tulane School of Medicine Trauma Director, Charity Hospital Trauma Center norman.mcswain at tulane.edu 504 988 5111 -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Bjorn, Pret Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:29 AM To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG] Subject: RE: Backup Call Pay Bravo on both accounts. Paying a stipend on top of privileges sets a crippling precedent. You can't un-push that domino, and your trauma center will suffer for it. And as for shotgun diagnostics (although I missed the origin of this tangent), there should be dedicated instruction in all critical care curricula with regard to timing and yield of various labs and imaging. We are inclined to blame "defensive medicine," but I suspect that at least part of the problem is intellectual laziness: ("Don't think! Run tests!") Pret Bjorn, RN Bangor, ME USA -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Gross, Ronald Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:40 AM To: 'Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]' Subject: RE: Backup Call Pay I DO NOT agree with call pay for any physician. We all have hospital PRIVILEGES, and with those privileges come OBLIGATIONS. IMHO, taking call is just one of the obligations that should be pay-back for the privileges. Teaching our up-coming colleagues that every test ordered by them should (1) be reviewed/examined by them personally, and (2) should be ordered knowing that the results WILL affect subsequent management is just another obligation that we seem to have forgotten about. OK, I will shut up now and yield my soap box to Dr. Mattox! Ron -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to the sender immediately or by telephone at (413) 794-0000 and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments. For further information regarding Baystate Health's privacy policy, please visit our Internet web site at http://www.baystatehealth.com.
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