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Tue Oct 13 13:23:12 BST 2009

Let the record show that I suggested this thread be taken off-List last week.  But the ensuing discussion is hard to observe quietly.  So let me just ask: since the Nobel Peace Prize is an annual recognition, who(m) would have a more appropriate recipient for 2008?

I think there's something to be said for the fellow who quite absolutely changed the face of a superpower.  Or the guy who turned unilateralism and bellicosity into dialogue and diplomacy, practically overnight.  Or the man who, certainly more than any leader in the civilized world, risks his safety (and that of his family) by merely doing his job.  Or the one who endures an unprecedented and ceaseless barrage of hyperbolic, hypocritical vitriol and counterfactual sabotage from self-described patriots in his own government who are drooling (in some cases, literally) in anticipation of any national crisis or failure, in the hopes that it can be pinned on him.  

I like the man who drew nearly a million people to the Tiergarten, and asserted that "the burdens of global citizenship continue to bind us together."

But if there are any other suggestions out there, let's hear them.

... Or maybe we can get back to discussing the care of the injured.

Pret Bjorn, RN
Bangor, ME USA

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From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Gross, Ronald
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Recognition for (Peace) Performance

I too have been silent on the issue (surprising to some, I would imagine).  I think that it is truly too bad people can't get rewarded for what they promise to do, or what they would like to see happen on their watch.  Were that to be the way that life worked, we would all be highly rewarded on a daily basis.  Unfortunately, we are only recognized and/or rewarded for what we have accomplished, and not for the promises we offer or represent.  As such, the awarding of a Nobel Peace prize to one who, according to some, represents much, but in reality has accomplished very little, if anything, with regard to furthering world peace (other than his desire to make the world a better place to live) has regrettably and inadvertently demeaned all of those who have or will receive what was previously regarded as the pinnacle of success, given to those whose life long achievements were to be recognized.
Ron
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From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Wilma Keelan [wilmakeelan at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:28 AM
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Subject: Re: Recognition for (Peace) Performance

I agree.

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From: kmattox at aol.com <kmattox at aol.com>
Subject: Recognition for (Peace) Performance
To: "Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 10:06 AM

This subject was origionally the Peace Prize Award to President Obama. I initially recused myself as I had nothing to discuss and nothing to add.   I am aware that some doctors have made MAJOR medical contributions and have never been recognized.  I do believe that any prize or recognition of this stature Must be quality and awarded for sentinal contributions in keeping with the subject of the award.   Clearly political and emotional overtones seem obvious to even a casual observer and bias is assumed by this writer.  I am therefore critical of the selection committee for their apparent flawed process.  I could easilly give logic why at this time this recipient should have either not been selected or should have been declined.   But what has happened, has happened.   I do believe that some of the selection of the Nobel committee in recent years has weakened the symbolism of the award.

K

------Original Message------
From: Janei D. Brockhausen
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Subject: Re: Nobel prize

I do not mean to imply you want accolades or awards, but with all the
medical proffesionals here, it would have been better to award the Nobel
prize to any or all of you than the recipient who did receive the award for
nothing.
janei

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:14 AM, rm khattar <dr_rm_khattar at yahoo.co.in>wrote:

> Janei and others.
> I have no aspirations of any rewards ,awards,decorations.I am one of those
> who belongs to the category of Come unknown, Go unknown.It was my way of
> expressing my cynicism over choice of the candidate for peace Nobel.
> R.M.Khattar
> Consultant Surgeon
> Delhi
> India.
>
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