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Gad Shaked shakedg at bgu.ac.ilThu Oct 8 11:29:52 BST 2009
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As a PI in study and as a frustrated trauma surgeon I agree with evey word you wrote. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karim Brohi <karimbrohi at gmail.com> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009 6:55 Subject: Re: AAST - rVIIa To: "Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]" <trauma-list at trauma.org> > Ken > I have to disagree with you. The two papers presented were > registryanalyses. They were well-designed registry > analyses but fundamentally > that's all they were. The only real conclusions to take > away from them is > that Factor VII has been used in patients and that rF7a appears > safe. The > rest is open to bias, confounders, missing patients etc etc etc > and no real > information about utility can be made. > > The results of the Phase III CONTROL trial were presented at the > International Society for Thrombosis & Haemostasis in Boston > this year ( > http://bit.ly/5oBdS). As many on the list will know this > trial was stopped > for futility for the mortality endpoint. As with the Phase > II 2159 study > there was a trend to saving blood products but not outright mortality. > > There was NO data presented at AAST to suggest that TEG/TEM can > guide F7a > therapy (although we presented a poster on using ROTEM to > diagnose Acute > Traumatic Coagulopathy). Jeff Kashuk from Denver presented > a small case > series of 35 patients describing their experience with > TEG. Nothing solid > about guiding transfusion therapy nor about F7a. > > I don't think any more nails have been hammered into rF7a's > coffin. rF7a is > in the coffin already because of CONTROL and because of Novonordisk > withdrawing from the trauma arena. Unfortunately CONTROL > was poorly > designed because of lack of knowledge of the disease process and > poor entry > criteria, so any signal was lost within the noise of a study > that tried to > give a very high dose of F7a to a very large number of patients. > > It would not surprise me that we're about to lose a useful drug > because of > lack of knowledge of a disease process combined with the > desperation of > trauma surgeons to adopt an unproven therapy and the regulator's > insistenceon a mortality endpoint for trials of patients without > capacity. Hopefully > when we have more robust observational trials to characterise > traumaticcoagulopathy we'll be able to design appropriate > studies for future > procoagulants and other therapies. > > Karim > > 2009/10/6 <KMATTOX at aol.com> > > > > > In my view, the biggest thing to come out of the recent Amer > Assoc Surgery > > of Trauma (AAST) meetings in Pittsburgh were TWO papers on > analysis of > > studies of rVIIa in real people and analyzing the past > publications.> Each > > could have been labeled , "The rise and fall of > rVIIa. The studies > > stated > > that basically there is no advantage of any kind that can > be discovered > > from either of these two well designed studies. One > was performed by one > > of > > the most respected researchers in blood, blood products, > clotting, and > > resuscitation in the world. He stated that > the entry criteria in the > > cases > > from the military were so poorly controlled, that no > good statement could > > be > > made about just what the entry criteria should be to > design a good study > > at this point in order to study this > product. WOW. No different from > > the early Israeli studies of 13 years > ago. If there was one > > observation that I could make is that maybe the TEG could have > been a good > > instrument to determine which cases just might benefit from > rVIIa to be > > given. > > > > k > > > > -- > > trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > > To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > > http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ > > > -- > trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ > Gadi Shaked, MD Department of Surgery Trauma Unit Soroka University Medical Center Beer Sheva Israel
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