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What we are demonstrating is two things:

1.   As we get old (and forgetful) our passion for history  increases. 

2.   We better record those little bits of history that  future old people 
would wish they had remembered before we forget  them.    

k

In a message dated 10/6/2009 9:10:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Krin135 at aol.com writes:

Since  both Safer and Caroline were trained in Pittsburgh, maybe someone   
over on CCM-L would be able to find more  information?

ck

In a message dated 10/6/2009 08:03:46  Central Standard Time, 
pbjorn at emh.org 
writes:

My guess  is  that there's no direct relationship, and that the  original
publication  was from a private or academic printing, long  extinct.

But who  knows?

Pret

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Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:54  AM
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Subject: Re:  ABCDE

interesting. An Amazon  search turns up a European book "ABC  of
Resuscitation" in the 5th edition,  as part of the 'ABC series'  of
'basic'  medical books (about the  equivalent of the Little,  Brown Spiral
Notebook series  here in the  states from what I can  gather). 
Using "Peter Safer"   returns
http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2009-October/_http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_b/?search-alias=stripbooks&u
nfiltered=1&field-keywords=&field-author=Peter+Safer
&field-title=&field-isbn=&field-publisher=&node=&url=&field-feature_brow
se-b
in=&field-binding_browse-bin=&field-subject=&field-language=&field-dateo
p=&f
ield-datemod=&field-dateyear=&sort=relevancerank&Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.x
=0&A
dv-Srch-Books-Submit.y=0_
(http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_b/?search-alias=stripbooks&u
nfiltered=1&field-keywords=&field-author=Peter+Safer&f
ield-title=&field-isbn=&field-publisher=&node=&url=&field-feature_browse
-bin
=&field-binding_browse-bin=&field-subject=&field-language=&field-dateop=
&fie
ld-datemod=&field-dateyear=&sort=relevancerank&Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.x=0
&Adv
-Srch-Books-Submit.y=0)    (_www.tinyurl.com/Peter-Safer_ 
(http://www.tinyurl.com/Peter-Safer)   ) 

which is the third edition of
Cardiopulmonary   Cerebral  Resuscitation: An Introduction to
Resuscitation Medicine :  Basic and   Advanced Cardiac and Trauma Life
Support (Paperback)  

is this  the same book in a later  edition?

ck

In a message dated  10/6/2009 07:11:32 Central  Standard  Time,
pbjorn at emh.org
writes:

Drs.  Safar and  Elam are  credited with the earliest versions of
conventional  CPR  in the  1950's.  Safar's obituary, as well as  many
other (perhaps   derivative?) web references, mention his  publication of
a book  entitled  "The ABC of Resuscitation" in  1957.  This would be  the
earliest published use of the term that  I can find -- except that  I
can't  exactly find it.  There  may be a copy or two preserved  in some
library  archive in  Pennsylvania; but if it's included in any  formal
bibliography  accessible via the internet, I'm not seeing    it.

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