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Fri Jun 12 22:29:02 BST 2009

I flicked this and the Rogue medic link over to PZ and here's the  
discussion on Pharyngula:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/06/pikers.php#comments

The Rogue is about to experience a massive upswing in traffic - hope  
he/she is ready! Please join us for the discussion on this blog; it's  
a great venue for discussing this sort of thing, and we're wandering  
away from trauma here...

Fiona.

On 12/06/2009, at 7:20 AM, htaed_rd at 123mail.org wrote:

>
> Here is a link to an article from AP:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090608/ap_on_he_me/us_med_unproven_remedies;_ylt=AqhWMtaxp8PqBWn0f396ZrnVJRIF;_ylu=X3oDMTJwazA2bjY5BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwNjA4L3VzX21lZF91bnByb3Zlbl9yZW1lZGllcwRjcG9zAzEEcG9zAzIEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDYXBpbXBhY3RhbHRl
>
> tinyURL:
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/knrtst
>
> The original press release from Shock Trauma:
>
> http://www.umm.edu/news/releases/alternative_therapies.htm
>
> The damage control press release in reply to the AP story from Shock
> Trauma:
>
> http://www.umm.edu/news/releases/reiki_response.htm
>
> This has received quite a bit of publicity over the past few days.
>
> I find the response press release amusing. Part of the AP story was on
> supplements and herbal remedies. Their response was:
>
> "These strategies produce no harm and some patients find them to be
> helpful. However, the University of Maryland Medical Center does not
> give patients unproven herbal or dietary supplements. Unfortunately,
> readers may have the wrong impression from the AP article."
>
> It might as well say, "Yes, we do crazy stuff, but not 'that' kind of
> crazy."
>
> Tim Noonan.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:10 +1000, "Fiona Wallace"
> <tielserrath at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Have you got a link to that press release? I'd like to send it to PZ
>> and the SGU - sounds like something they'd be interested in.
>>
>> Fiona
>>
>> Dr Fiona Wallace
>> Tasmania.
>>
>>
>> On 12/06/2009, at 4:34 AM, htaed_rd at 123mail.org wrote:
>>
>>> Here is a link to the press release from Shock Trauma. The all
>>> capital lettering is their idea. All capital letters probably
>>> improve the outcome.
>>>
>>> Here is a quote:
>>>
>>> "The University of Maryland Medical Center is the only facility
>>> in the country offering Reiki to trauma patients, although it has
>>> also been used to treat people with cancer and other illnesses."
>>>
>>> Nobody else, according to the press release, is using Reiki. So,
>>> while Johns Hopkins may not have trauma center designation, they
>>> do not appear to be sampling the anesthesia supplies.
>>>
>>> Their study of Acupuncture leaves some room for improvement.
>>> There does not appear to be a placebo group. How do you determine
>>> that an added treatment is more effective than placebo, if you do
>>> not have patients receiving a sham form of acupuncture?
>>>
>>> Perhaps they are using an ancient form of research, that does not
>>> involve the scientific method.
>>>
>>> SHOCK TRAUMA OFFERS ALTERNATIVE THERAPIES FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT
>>> Patients Can Have Reiki, Music Therapy and Acupuncture in
>>> Addition to Medication
>>> September 5, 2007
>>> [1]Press Release
>>>
>>> Tim Noonan.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:07 -0400, "Rick Tappan" <rtappan at gwu.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>> So one could say the same for Johns Hopkins which is also a
>>> trauma center
>>>> as
>>>> well as a world renowned institution, but is also off the
>>> list?????
>>>>
>>>> Rick Tappan
>>>> 703 726-3734
>>>> rtappan at gwu.edu
>>>> "Who Dares, Wins"
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
>>>> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of htaed_rd at 123mail.org
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:18 PM
>>>> To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]
>>>> Subject: RE: Shooting in Washington DC (UNCLASSIFIED)
>>>>
>>>> Shock Trauma is so cutting edge, that they are using Reiki,
>>> Acupuncture,
>>>> and other "traditional medicine." Maybe they want to stay away
>>> from
>>>> anything evidence based, such as trauma center designation.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Noonan.
>>>>
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1. http://www.umm.edu/news/releases/alternative_therapies.htm
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