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Fri Jun 12 11:58:10 BST 2009

Who dares to teach must never cease to learn.
John Cotton Dana

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Charlene M Morris <cvmmorris at gmail.com>wrote:

> One other thing: they'll all be laughing at us 100 years from now, just as
> we scoff today. Who'd have thought of robotic or even laparoscopic surgery?
> Medications to keep crazy people out of assylums? Heck-- beta blockers in
> COPDers?! Or Flagyl for pregnant people? (And those two were from MY
> training days of-- "no no never!")
>
> CMM
>
>   On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Fiona Wallace <tielserrath at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>
>> Open minded means being open to evidence.
>>  Being open minded to things with no evidence means you've let your brain
>> fall out.
>>
>> Note: the 'open minded' defence is the classic tactic of alties. It
>> signals that you have no evidence and therefore no argument, but just want
>> to try and make the other person look bad. It's the equivalent of saying
>> 'can't you take a joke' to someone you've just insulted.
>>
>> Acupuncture has been extensively studied, as has the 'life force' and
>> auras. See the James Randi Educational Foundation website, and more
>> importantly, follow the challenge link on the site and see what happens when
>> this stuff is put to the test.
>>
>> I'm open minded - offer me reproducible positive studies, and falsifiable
>> data, and I will change my mind in an instant. Belief should be reserved for
>> religion, if you are that way inclined.
>>
>> Fiona.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/06/2009, at 6:50 PM, Lorick Fox, MPAS, PA-C wrote:
>>
>> Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
>>> I tend to suspect that you are right, but as it has NOT been studied
>>> (although there is some work comparing reports of "aura" among people who
>>> claimed to able to perceive such and it was neither consistent nor
>>> supportive of their claims).
>>>
>>> I therefore reserve judgment.
>>> I view keeping an open mind is the scientific approach.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lorick Fox, MPAS, PA-C
>>> Gianaclis Support Complex
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>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: Alternative therapies (OT)
>>>>
>>>> There is no such thing as 'life energy' except the stuff that comes
>>>> out of defibrillator paddles (and then only when it works)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>
> --
> The one important thing I have learned over the years is the difference
> between taking one's work seriously and taking one's self seriously. The
> first is imperative and the second is disastrous.
> Margot Fonteyn
>
>

-- 
The one important thing I have learned over the years is the difference
between taking one's work seriously and taking one's self seriously. The
first is imperative and the second is disastrous.
Margot Fonteyn

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