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Better yet an attorney friend of mine told me to NEVER take a breathalyzer  
as any "Aggie Lawyer" could beat that administrative penalty for refusal  
but it takes an "Austin lawyer" to beat a 1.9. 

Oh I drink maybe a drink a month average. 

The System sucks. 

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In a message dated 6/3/2009 4:50:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
nappio at aol.com writes:

Ps -  check your records...probably 1% of the positive etoh screens ever 
get a  summons. Dn

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From: "Gross, Ronald"  <Ronald.Gross at baystatehealth.org>

Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:11:34  
To: 'Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]'<trauma-list at trauma.org>
Subject:  RE: Air France Flight Disappearance - THEORY

Reducing the  penalty??  Hell, Norman, up here the lawyers DEFEND these 
guys.   There is a huge billboard in Bridgeport on I-95 by a lawyer who does 
nothing  else but defend the guys up for DUI cases.  And last week I took care 
of  a patient driving his motorcycle without a helmet who lost his leg and 
remains  comatose after being taken out by a guy with a suspended license 
and FOUR  prior CONVICTIONS for DUI.  Stupidity is our job security - and the  
legal/legislative system merely acts to perpetuate and reward  stupidity.

Yeah, I guess I'm a bit frustrated..........today has been a  long week.

Ron

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[mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On  Behalf Of McSwain, Norman E Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:52  PM
To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]
Subject: RE: Air France Flight  Disappearance - THEORY

Sorry but mandatory continuing education and  retesting will not work if 
the lawmakers continue to do as the Louisiana is  doing this week: reducing 
the penalty for DWI and removing the motor cycle  helmet law

Norman

Norman McSwain MD
Professor, Tulane School  of Medicine
Trauma Director, Charity Hospital Trauma  Center
norman.mcswain at tulane.edu
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[mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of John Annen
Sent:  Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:22 PM
To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]
Subject:  Re: Air France Flight Disappearance - THEORY

Dear Dr. Gross

You  are too right about our (and our policy makers') lack of attention to 
road  safety. A lot of money has been spent over the past few decades on 
improved  safety technologies for cars and roads, but IMO far too little has 
been done  to improve attitudes and awareness among drivers.

I would like to see  mandatory continuing education and periodic retesting 
for all drivers. Surely  the additional cost and inconvenience would be 
justified by the lives saved  (and if it weren't, the measures could be 
removed), and we as a society  readily accept such measures in the workplace in 
order to operate machinery  and perform other tasks which are substantially less 
risky to ourselves and  others than driving a car, but our "right" to drive 
seems to be sacred, and  the law makers seem afraid to do what needs to be 
done to get highway deaths  and injuries down.

John  Annen

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From: "Gross,  Ronald" <Ronald.Gross at baystatehealth.org>
To: Trauma-List  [TRAUMA.ORG] <trauma-list at trauma.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009  3:12:35 PM
Subject: RE: Air France Flight Disappearance -  THEORY

>A faulty maintenance,  a leak in the fuel system +  static= explosion, a 
suicide attack to the pilot cabin, an explosive bomb, a  air plane to plane 
crash and an astray missile are other common  explanations<

Common explanations?  When is the last time you  saw any of these common 
events?  Lest we forget, air travel is still the  safest mode of 
transportation available to mankind.  Case in point - just  for the US, how many traffic 
deaths were there, and how many deaths due to  plane crashes were there?  
Yes, there was the pilot error in Buffalo, NY,  but how many crashes on US 
roadways did we see due to "pilot" aka driver  error?  Like drunk drivers, 
drivers talking on cell phones, etc, etc,  etc.

Too bad we don't pay as much attention to the carnage on the  world's 
roadways as we do to the deaths caused by airplane crashes.  Yes  a sudden 
massive loss of live is very visible - but the effects are the same  whether that 
loss of life happens all at once or over the course of 365  days..........

And while I am at it - we might never know what happened  on the doomed Air 
France plane, and so all this speculation by all of our  self-proclaimed 
experts and a token will get me mugged on a subway - and will  cast unproved 
and therefore undeserved blame on pilots who might not deserve  it.  How 
about we all look to cast blame and hold accountable all of the  people who are 
responsible for all of those deaths on the worlds' roadways  because they 
can't seem to stay sober when they have to drive?

Just my  2 cents.

Ron
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[mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On  Behalf Of Bjorn, Pret
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:42 AM
To:  Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]
Subject: RE: Air France Flight Disappearance -  THEORY

I'm guessing that nobody "forgot" to blame the suddenly dead and  thus 
defenseless crew on zero evidence.

Some people just prefer to keep  their speculations respectful and 
harmless.  Some would rather not  speculate at all.  The truth will out; no sense or 
use in rushing  it.

Pret

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[mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On  Behalf Of listasmsd
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:04 AM
To:  Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]
Subject: Re: Air France Flight Disappearance -  THEORY

Every one forgot the common cause of airplanes crashes: pilot  error ... 
seek the Occams´razor. In very bad weather there is safe way out. At  the end, 
like in most cases the pilots poor judgment will be the main reason  of the 
plane lost.
I will always praise an anonymous Captain from A.A. that  stopped the 
flight I was in because the gadget-meter for fuel was faulty (a 3  hours flight, 
fuel for 6 hours). We were ready for take off and the Captain  said the 
reason in the plane´s loud speaker: ......the replacement sent by the  company 
was broken also... even with the A.A. land people pressure he is not  taken 
off......... It took me 14 hour to get to Miami
The companies  pressure the air crew often over "minor" problems so the 
show will go  on.
Regards
Manuel Sotelo
Caracas D.C.
PS A faulty  maintenance,  a leak in the fuel system + static= explosion, a 
suicide  attack to the pilot cabin, an explosive bomb, a air plane to plane 
crash and  an astray missile are other common explanations

(Cross post from  CCM-L)

Unfortunately, although there may be various variations (if they  ever find 
the flight data recorder), the cause of this crash is likely to be  pretty 
simple:  Airplanes and thunderstorms don't mix.
There is no  airplane that is turbulence and ice proof at the levels 
thunderstorms  achieve.
The tops of the storms were reported at or above the cruising  altitude of 
the aircraft.
Airborne radar only shows what is in front of the  aircraft so you can't 
look at the big picture in the Atlantic real time.
In  the US, I can ask the weather folks (and ATC if they turn off the 
filters that  remove weather from their radar scopes) for additional information.
I don't  believe that option is available in the middle of the Atlantic.

If you  have nowhere to go as you try to thread through storms that doesn't 
contain a  cell, you lose.
The space you came through may now contain another storm,  so you can't 
even turn back.  Generally, turning back is a bad idea once  you are in the 
turbulence because of the greater forces on the aircraft in a  turn..

I flew (on instruments) through a cold front once in a Cessna  182.  
Normally I would never do so, but we were looking for two missing  students who 
had flown back to their base from a trip and never got  there.
Their Emergency Locator beacon (ELT) had been heard.
We were the  only aircraft/crew able to do ELT search in instrument 
conditions that could  be there in a prompt time frame and we had no idea if they 
were  alive.
Survival drops > 75% (some say 90%) after 24 hours.
After  talking with Flight Service meteorologist and the ATC controller for 
the area,  we decided we could make the flight with an acceptable level of 
safety.
For  about a minute, I couldn't maintain the aircraft altitude within 1000' 
(i.e.  we were pushed up and down by turbulence > 3000' total),  Usual  
tolerance is +/- 100'.
That was a cold front, not a thunderstorm, with the  penetration selected 
based on expert guidance, real time. Admittedly, a tiny  airplane compared to 
an airliner.
It is amazing what ATC will do when you  have "Rescue" on the front of your 
call sign.
(We found them on the side of  a mountain, night and still on instruments.  
Ground team went in, no  survivors.)

Lorick

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