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Christine Wilson christine.wilson at flinders.edu.auTue Jul 7 07:56:40 BST 2009
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Thanks Tim this is excellent and I really appreciate it Kind Regards Chris Dr Timothy Hardcastle wrote: > Hi Christine > > No "protocol" as such, just extensive experience (>300 major blunt chest > trauma in the last 5 years) and therefore can give you some guidance that > may assist you. (Maybe will help you to derive your own protocol). The > reason I don't advocate a "protocol" here is that each patient is very > individual in how they cooperate / cope with the support offered, so a > general apporach is more relevant. > > Firstly: Flail chest is mainly a cause of pain, while underlying contusion > is the cause of shunt and hypoxia, so analgesia is the first step; either > epidural, or intercostal blocks,or combination opioid / non-opioid IV in > suitable doses - PCA useful if patient able to cooperate. Aim for Ramsay > 2-3 sedation level. If intercostal drain in-situ could even use > intra-pleural catheter with bupivacaine. > > Secondly assess the extent of lung contusion - the worse the contusion the > less likely non-invasive ventilation will work; rather intubate early and > wean to extubate around day 5, then continue with non-invasive. > > If primarily rib fractures with limited severity of contusion, then early > non-invasive ventilatory support is most appropriate: I start with a > full-face mask, with portal for a naso-gastric tube to decompress the > stomach - they all swallow air; use between 8 - 10 mmHg CPAP with a > combination of additional pressure support adjusted to achieve internal > splinting (minimal residual flail) or Vt of 6 - 8 ml/kg, whichever comes > first. Aim for sats >92% or PaO2 of over 8kPa (68mmHg) as minimum. Titrate > both CPAP and the PSV/ASB as required. > > Aim for a spontaneous resp rate less than 30 - more than this and they > will tire - this group will require intubation and ventilation. > > Regular checks for developing VAP are essential. Screening wth ProCal is > useful. > Antibiotics are best avoided unless true infection is diagnosed. > Prophylactic AB are not required for lung contusion. > > Hope this helps > Tim > Dr T C Hardcastle > M.B., Ch.B. (Stell); M. Med. (Chir) (Stell); FCS (SA) > Principal Specialist Trauma Surgeon / > Honorary Lecturer University of KwaZulu-Natal Dept Surgery > Deputy Director - IALCH Trauma Service > Durban - South Africa > > >> Has anyone have any protocols for managing traumatic chest injuries such >> as a flail chest with non invasive ventilation? >> -- >> >> Chris Wilson >> >> Lecturer in Nursing >> >> Flinders University >> >> 82013354 >> >> 0414253393 >> >> -- >> trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG >> To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: >> http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ >> > > -- > trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ > -- Chris Wilson Lecturer in Nursing Flinders University 82013354 0414253393
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