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Crisis in Gaza...

Pret Bjorn p.bjorn at netzero.net
Sun Jan 18 14:19:21 GMT 2009


Oh.  My.  God.

Let me be the first to say that I don't care in the least whether this
posting was accidental.  And I don't believe that for an instant.

Dr. Besserman, you cannot possibly be ashamed enough.  

Pret Bjorn, RN
Bangor, ME USA


-----Original Message-----
From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
On Behalf Of Richard Besserman, M.D., M.S., CHS-V
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 2:16 PM
To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list
Subject: Re: Crisis in Gaza...

Please excuse my mistake - I intended for this email to be sent off line to
Dr. Richey and not to the mailing list.  Sorry.

RB


On 1/17/09 11:57 AM, "Richard Besserman" <emermgt at besserman.com> wrote:

> Dear Dr. Richey
> 
> Just after reading your note about anti-Semitism, I received an email from
a
> retired university professor with the following website.  I am reluctant
to
> send this with the list but I thought it worth sharing with you.
> 
> I have a faculty appointment and am concerned that many of my colleagues
are
> losing touch with reality.  Though this might drive home what I have heard
> you and others say.  I believe that there are consequences to being
silent.
> We cannot let our 1st Amendment rights destroy the fabric of society,
> especially the future, the youth of America.
> 
> The following is a sad commentary of where we are today.
> 
> http://www.terrorismawareness.org/jihad-academia/
> 
> You need not apologize for your comments.
> 
> 
> Richard Besserman, M.D.
> 
> 
> On 1/17/09 10:43 AM, "Stephen Richey" <stephen.richey at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I wasn't intending on labeling him as such.  It was just that there were
>> several off list comments to me from different members about how
>> "anti-Semitic" those who objected (especially Dr. Palencia) to the war
were
>> being.  It was meant as a notice that the way he was wording his
responses
>> were being taken by some as to be biased against the Israelis while
ignoring
>> the actions of a large portion of the Palestinian population.
>> 
>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 7:02 AM, JMG <cafritio at online.no> wrote:
>> 
>>> Stephen Richey wrote:
>>> 
>>>> As someone said before, you're not going to change the opinions of
anyone
>>>> so
>>>> can you please stop being so insufferable please? I was kind enough not
to
>>>> continue pointing out the flaws in your stance (ignoring the fact that
>>>> this
>>>> is a two-way fight and not the one-sided genocide as you seem to want
to
>>>> paint it) so I would ask you do the same, lest you continue to come
across
>>>> as some manner of bigoted anti-Semite.
>>>> 
>>>> So far as I can tell, that impression is coming as an inadvertent
result
>>>> of
>>>> your desire to want to assign blame to the side that happens to be
winning
>>>> the battle based on the biased reports of the media which are based on
the
>>>> biased reports of the Palestinians and the limp-wristed wusses at the
UN.
>>>> 
>>>> It's war.  People are going to die. Everyone just needs to learn to
accept
>>>> that fact and not start whining when the shooting starts because
diplomacy
>>>> either failed or was not given an adequate chance (the former being the
>>>> case
>>>> here).
>>>> 
>>>> Now let's just drop this and move on.
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Eduardo Palencia
>>>> <palenciahccml at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I send you the editorial of the last issue of Lancet, fixing its
>>>>> position about the barbarities committed for the israeli army against
>>>>> the health of the civilian palestinian population. They are
>>>>> intolerable, if some rest of humanitarian feelings remains.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eduardo
>>>>> --
>>>>> Eduardo Palencia Herrejón
>>>>> Jefe de Servicio de Medicina Intensiva
>>>>> Hospital "Infanta Leonor", Madrid
>>>>> C/ Gran vía del Este, 80
>>>>> 28031 Madrid, Spain
>>>>> Tfno: +34619204428
>>>>> epalenciah at salud.madrid.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2009/1/16 Gad Shaked <shakedg at bgu.ac.il>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lies again. There is a humanitarian corridor every day for 3 hours.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Usually the Hamas terrorists continue firing and launching rockets
during
>>>>> this period. The palestinians should have considered this scenario
eight
>>>>> years when they kept attacking innocent civilians in the towns and
>>>>> villages
>>>>> adjacent to the Gaza strip, More important is the good news of this
>>>>> morning
>>>>> that the 7 year old boy sustainig a critical  head injury from a
rocket
>>>>> that
>>>>> exploded next to him is improving. He underwent decompressive
craniotomy
>>>>> as
>>>>> part of his damage control surgery. Another woman is also doing well
>>>>> after a
>>>>> laparotomy for multiple small and large bowel shrapnel perforations.
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> Be so kind as to avoid labeling someone as an anti-semite on the basis
that
>>> they are apalled by the actions of the Israely army. There is a big
>>> difference between disliking the actions of a countrys army (in this
case
>>> mainly made up by jewish folks) and disliking a whole people because of
>>> their religion and ethnicity. --
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