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Sat Jan 10 22:41:43 GMT 2009

Jay, 

>A more level article is found at the LA Times:
>http://www.latimes.com/features/health/medicine/la-me-good-samaritan19->200
8dec19,0,6547898.story

that's not a more level article, it's the same.
I still think the judges made a mistake that society will suffer from, for a
long time.  

Mickey

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On Behalf Of Doucet, Jay
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Calififornia ruling against Good Samaritans

That particular article may have some bias - as the author acknowledges in
the last paragraph - his own mother being left to die without extrication
after a MVC.

A different interpretation is that the intoxicated defendant "freaked out"
and she yanked the victim from a vehicle which witnesses state showed no
evidence of being likely to explode or burn.  She then dropped the victim
immediately next to the vehicle, which seemed inconsistent with any
perceived risk of fire/explosion.

The question I think is what a "reasonable person" would do - and it seems
the standard in California is now that an average adult should know not to
pull a MVA victim from a vehicle without a scene threat and when EMS is
likely to arrive quickly.  This is not wholly unreasonable in my opinion.

A more level article is found at the LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/medicine/la-me-good-samaritan19-2008d
ec19,0,6547898.story

Jay Doucet MD MSc FRCSC FACS RDMS
Associate Professor of Clinical Surgery
Director, Surgical Intensive Care Unit 
Division of Trauma, Burns and Surgical Critical Care
Department of Surgery, University of California San Diego

UCSD Medical Center
200 W Arbor Drive
San Diego, CA 92103-8896

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Stein M.D. [mailto:mgstein at bezeqint.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Calififornia ruling against Good Samaritans

Yep,
The stupid legal system of the US of A.
Dad

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Subject: Calififornia ruling against Good Samaritans

 Interesting article...check it out!!

http://www.ems1.com/survivability/articles/446477
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