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Forrest Robleto, NCEE
R House Health & Safety
www.RHouseTraining.com
FRobleto at RhouseTraining.com
609-792-9047

Pablo Picasso<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/p/pablo_picasso.html>
- "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Larry Torrey <ltorrey at maine.rr.com> wrote:

> Standard EMT protocol where?  I didn't think that anything was standard in
> EMS
>
> Not protocol around here.
>
> LT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forrest Robleto <farcpr at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:08:48
> To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG <http://trauma.org/>]<trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Subject: Re: C-SPINE CLEARANCE - surprise
>
>
> Why is EMS putting  cervical collars on GSW patients?  Standard EMT
> protocol.
> Are we hurting more people than we are helping using cervical  collars?
> From
> all I've read
> Are we hurting more people than we are helping using cervical  collars? I
> hope not but I have no recourse.
>
>
> V/R
>
> Forrest Robleto, NCEE
> R House Health & Safety
> www.RHouseTraining.com <http://www.rhousetraining.com/>
> FRobleto at RhouseTraining.com
> 609-792-9047
>
>
>
>
> Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach<
> http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/marie_von_ebnereschenbac.html>
>  - "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day."
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 4:38 PM, <KMATTOX at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > clue
> >
> > Why is EMS putting  cervical collars on GSW patients?
> > Why would ANYONE at ANYTIME and ANYWHERE give a patient with a spinal
> cord
> > injury any form of a steroid or apply hypothermia
> > Are we hurting more people than we are helping using cervical  collars?
> > Are cervical collars in concept basically flawed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/22/2009 3:22:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >  candymsnjd at aol.com writes:
> >
> >
> > K
> > can you give us a hint? is it that blue dye found in m and  m's?
> > but seriously, we are all waiting to learn the new information...hope
>  its
> > sooner than later
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original  Message-----
> > From: KMATTOX at aol.com
> > To: trauma-list at trauma.org
> > Sent:  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 1:29 pm
> > Subject: Re: C-SPINE CLEARANCE -  surprise
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe,   I am  checking out the data, the research, the  publications.
> >
> > On at least 5 times in the past, suggestions of the data  that I have
> seen
> > has been a massive attack upon those who proposed  it and a running into
> > obscurity.
> >
> > As soon  as the information is solid and truly evidence based, I will
> share
> >
> > it.
> >
> > I do remember how much many on this list  tried to assassinate me when I
> > initially questioned MAST pants,  helicopter use for urban use,
> interosseus
> >
> > infusions, aggressive IV  solutions, hypotensive resuscitation, EC
> > thoracotomy,
> > CT vs arteriogram  for aortic injury, and many others.   I have deep
>  scars
> > to  prove it.
> >
> > k
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/22/2009  12:12:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > andrewj.bowman at gmail.com  writes:
> >
> > Wouldn't  it be better for us and the patients we care for  if you
> > shared the  information now?
> >
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