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Sat Aug 22 21:29:27 BST 2009

Or at least provides little benefit.

The hospital I work for has a hospital affiliated EMS service. They have a
well written c-spine clearance protocol. It is rarely used. Almost any
patient with even the most minor of fender-benders gets brought in in full
spinal immobilization.

One of my first questions is "Did you have neck or back pain BEFORE they
strapped you down to this hard board?

Andrew Bowman

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Forrest Robleto <farcpr at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm guessing that most immobilization does more harm than good.  I've read
> a
> lot about that but as an EMT instructor I'm required to teach overuse of
> spinal immobilization.
>
> V/R
>
> Forrest Robleto, NCEE
> R House Health & Safety
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>
>
>
> Mike Ditka <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mike_ditka.html>
>  -
> "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms."
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 4:21 PM, <candymsnjd at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >  K
> > can you give us a hint? is it that blue dye found in m and m's?
> > but seriously, we are all waiting to learn the new information...hope its
> > sooner than later
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: KMATTOX at aol.com
> > To: trauma-list at trauma.org
> > Sent: Sat, Aug 22, 2009 1:29 pm
> > Subject: Re: C-SPINE CLEARANCE - surprise
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe,   I am checking out the data, the research, the  publications.
> >
> > On at least 5 times in the past, suggestions of the data that I have seen
> > has been a massive attack upon those who proposed it and a running into
> > obscurity.
> >
> > As soon as the information is solid and truly evidence based, I will
> share
> > it.
> >
> > I do remember how much many on this list tried to assassinate me when I
> > initially questioned MAST pants, helicopter use for urban use,
> interosseus
> > infusions, aggressive IV solutions, hypotensive resuscitation, EC
> > thoracotomy,
> >  CT vs arteriogram for aortic injury, and many others.   I have deep
>  scars
> > to prove it.
> >
> > k
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/22/2009 12:12:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > andrewj.bowman at gmail.com writes:
> >
> > Wouldn't  it be better for us and the patients we care for if you
> > shared the  information now?
> >
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