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Mon Aug 3 10:38:09 BST 2009

It is not the equivalent of the cattle prod, at least not when used
appropriately.

Tim Noonan.

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:00 +0000, ghowd at statems.net wrote:
> Ah, he can be as derisive as he likes.  This isn't an NRA debate. In my
> opinion, I can't conceive of a medical Professional (operative word)
> considering a TASER to be appropriate solution to someone with delirium. 
> I've worked as a paramedic for years pre hospital, and spent more than a
> few years working in a ED - overdoses, dementia, psychosis, and
> formicating crack addicts and I've never wanted ,needed, nor wished for
> the modern day equivalent of a cattle prod. 
> Guy E. Howd EMTP, EMSIC
> Clinical Quality Coordinator
> STAT EMS
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: htaed_rd at 123mail.org
> 
> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:12:56 
> To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]<trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Subject: Re: Taser in ER
> 
> 
> On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:25 +0000, ghowd at statems.net wrote:
> > None that I can cite but definitely sufficient direct observation to form
> > an opinion. Over the years, many spent working in an ED, I have seen
> > plenty of errors in judgment by not only staff, but security personnel,
> > an unfortunate few of which ("sentinel events) resulted in lawsuits and
> > the premature end of careers. 
> 
> It sounds as if you have a problem with the training/oversight of
> personnel, rather than the tools they are using. If the problem is not
> with the TASER, that they apparently do not have, how does prohibition
> of TASERs affect the behavior of people who are misbehaving? 
> 
> 
> > I concede it may be a necessary evil in some of the larger metropolitan
> > areas but cannot see the need in an average Emergency Department.
> 
> Is agitated delirium isolated to major metropolitan areas?
> 
> Tim Noonan.
> 
> 
> > Guy E. Howd EMTP, EMSIC
> > Clinical Quality Coordinator
> > STAT EMS
> > The information contained in the e-mail is confidential and propriety. It
> > is not to be disclosed or made public without the expressed consent of
> > STAT EMS, Inc.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: htaed_rd at 123mail.org
> > 
> > Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:17:58 
> > To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]<trauma-list at trauma.org>
> > Subject: Re: Taser in ER
> > 
> > 
> > Do you have any evidence to support that statement?
> > 
> > Perhaps something that is from a reputable journal.
> > 
> > Tim Noonan. 
> > 
> > On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:11 +0000, ghowd at statems.net wrote:
> > > None here in Michigan, thank the gods of liability. At face value, this
> > > may be one of worst, potentially ironic, ideas I've heard of in some
> > > time.
> > > ------Original Message------
> > > From: Andrew J Bowman
> > > Sender: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> > > To: Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list
> > > ReplyTo: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG]
> > > Subject: Taser in ER
> > > Sent: Aug 2, 2009 14:09
> > > 
> > > I saw in the USA TODAY that Eastern Maine Medical Center ER would be  
> > > purchasing a Taser to keep in the department. Any others have one in  
> > > their ER?
> > > 
> > > Typed by my index finger and sent from my iPhone.
> > > 
> > > Andrew J Bowman
> > > Acute Care Nurse Practitioner
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> > > 
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> > > Guy E. Howd EMTP, EMSIC
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