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Charles Brault c_brault at yahoo.comSun Aug 2 19:58:37 BST 2009
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This sort of thinking Indeed leads to more harm than good Judging by the few cases that I have heard (maybe also that common sense case where Pt was hauled in the E.R.a nd treated... we never hear of) - Cardiac arrest in parking lot - Smurff O.D.s dropped outsie the hospital doors - Gun shot victims droped in the same manner - Janitor AMIs in ped hospital - O.B. case in extended care facility Care has been more likely none existant than poor As people tripped over the legal flower patterns on the rug You better perform some sort of decent Read advanced BLS whilst waiting for EMS And You better hope you have a fast EMS Fast enough not to embarras the hospitals passivity Pie on your face If you don't Charles ________________________________ From: "McSwain, Norman E Jr." <nmcswai at tulane.edu> To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG] <trauma-list at trauma.org> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2009 4:58:33 PM Subject: RE: trauma response within the hospital One more thought. Unless all of your ED personnel are trained for field response they should NOT attempt it. In any response, in hospital, in the field, Code blue, etc, the personnel who respond should be adequately trained. If not most likely they will violate the dictum of "Do no further harm" Most ED personnel are not trained for out of hospital response and care. Norman Norman McSwain MD Trauma Director, Charity Hospital Professor of Surgery, Tulane University New Orleans LA 504 988 5111 norman.mcswain at tulane.edu <mailto:norman.mcswain at tulane.edu> ________________________________ From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org on behalf of McSwain, Norman E Jr. Sent: Sun 8/2/2009 10:52 AM To: Trauma-List [TRAUMA.ORG] Subject: RE: trauma response within the hospital By protocol EMS handles everything outside the walls of the hospital. We might try to respond but it is not the standard nor the protocol. Our ED personnel are not trained nor equipped for proper field response. Norman Norman McSwain MD Trauma Director, Charity Hospital Professor of Surgery, Tulane University New Orleans LA 504 988 5111 norman.mcswain at tulane.edu <mailto:norman.mcswain at tulane.edu> ________________________________ From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org on behalf of Gad Shaked Sent: Sun 8/2/2009 10:51 AM To: trauma-list at trauma.org Subject: trauma response within the hospital Dear friends, I would like to know your protocols for trauma response for incidents occurring within the hospital, i.e in the parking lot, suicide attempt (like jumping off the roof of the hospital) etc. Not for ER or ward patients. Who is responding, from where they get the equipment, do they also do the rescue if needed? Thanks, Gadi Gadi Shaked, MD Department of Surgery Trauma Unit Soroka University Medical Center Beer Sheva Israel? -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/
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