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Dell,

We can if we need to do so. We have the ability to run straight to the OR and bypass the ED. It is the attending's call. Fortunately, we are set up to do so. Where I am now, we are about 25 to 30 yards from the OR once the patient hits the ED door.  However, most of the time it is the 2 or 5 or 10 minute drill just depending on the case. Where I trained at UC Davis, we always stopped in the ED for an evaluation, plus the OR was on the second floor. Mercy San Juan a few years ago was also based on the UC Davis model. Same with several other midwestern trauma centers were I did my more junior training. 

All the best,

MRM

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From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of moore677 at aol.com
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:16 PM
To: trauma-list at trauma.org
Subject: Re: ED to OR times

During my fellowship and first job (East Texas), we did direct OR transports when indicated.? Here in Phoenix (at least Joe's anyway), we are not optimally set up to do that (we routinely don't know what we are getting from Phoenix FD).? 

Kumash, do you guys have direct OR transport at either John C. Lincoln or Scottsdale?? 

Dutch, how about you guys at Maricopa?

Dell...............

Forrest "Dell" Moore, MD, FACS
Trauma Critical Care Surgery
Co-director, Trauma and Surgical ICU
St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center Phoenix, AZ

-----Original Message-----
From: McSwain, Norman E Jr. <nmcswai at tulane.edu>
To: Trauma and Critical Care mailing list <trauma-list at trauma.org>
Sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 1:47 pm
Subject: RE: ED to OR times

For acute shocky patients, we try to keep our times  to under 10 minutes

Norman

Norman McSwain MD
Professor, Tulane School of Medicine
Trauma Director, Charity Hospital Trauma Center norman.mcswain at tulane.edu
504 988 5111

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[mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Bailey
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:44 PM
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Subject: ED to OR times

Curious if anyone has an opinion or ideas backed by research about appropriate ED to OR times for trauma patients.
Thanks
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