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saad shebrain shebrain1 at yahoo.comSun Apr 19 16:08:06 BST 2009
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First I am Not Expert; But I have some points to say; This patient presented to ER with some suprapubic tenderness, fever, and marked leukocytosis. I think the DD list is reasonable but I should add Recurrent diverticulitis with its complications in my mind (perforation, absces, fistula with urinary tract, etc), in addition to obtain UA to R/O UTI or peylonephritis. and always, fever and high WBC is pus under pressure until proved otherwise. The patient history of 7-10 days of symptoms might me misleading to say is ot an acute event. Also I should put IUCD infection on the list (?Actinomycosis etc). And Obtain CT scan if you can. HERE in USA, CT scan and CBC are considered the standard of care in diagnosing diverticular disease. Now communication with OB/GYN is always difficult, you will never get anything from you. You see a pt with huge ovarian cyst and RLQ pain and you ask them for possible torsion and they will write the best note in the world to nconvince you that it is not and they have no buisness with the pt. and you stuck now, you take the pt for diagnostic laparoscopy and then you call them for dealing with twisted cyst and emabrasse them. Now in your case, you did not benefit from OB/GYN resident. He/She cleared the patient from their side, by their note. Now they put it on your shoulder. Did you get CT scan? Did you double check your decision why this patient is going home with marked leukocytosis and fever that have not been invistigated very well? this patient could be just heding the door of Septic shock but still compensating, or early? We understand that when you on call after midnight our (RAS: reticular activating system) start to shut down, but when this happen, the price is high on the patient side. Did you consider even diagnostic laparoscopy as last invasive procedure if you do ot want to observe the patient at least in the hospital on antibiotics? and if not why? and did you send blood cultures? etc. Then Did you talk to your attending that night and explained your thought? It is not your job to talk to OB/GYN attending if they have respresentitive (resident) unless you are NOT Comfortable with the resident decisions. SS --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT WARNING: This email (and any attachments) is only intended for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. You, the recipient, are obligated to maintain it in a safe, secure and confidential manner. Unauthorized redisclosure or failure to maintain confidentiality may subject you to federal and state penalties. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify us by return email, and delete this message from your computer. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- On Sun, 4/19/09, Dr.Asif .H.Ansari <asifhansari at yahoo.com> wrote: From: Dr.Asif .H.Ansari <asifhansari at yahoo.com> Subject: Advice wanted from a Resident Surgery. To: trauma-list at trauma.org Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 6:23 AM Hi everyone, I am a resident in surgery and with 3 yrs + work exp. I need some advice from the seniors with regard to a case for which I and others might be investigated. Day 1 A 38 female servant comes to ER c/o pain lower abdomen-7-10days, nausea, burning urine, no constipation/diarrhea. Previous surgery 4 yrs back c sec. periods normal. Preg test –ve. No known medical or surgical conditions. History takin was difficult as pts was of sri lankan. o/e febrile 38.5 C, puls- 90-95bpm, BP 120/80 mmHg Chest-nad Abd- not distended, soft like cotton! , no guarding, no rigidity, ONLY Tendernes in Suprapubic region, Bowel Sounds- normal. PR- NAD Labs- White cell count- 20,000, other labs within normal limits. So my plan was to admit her after doing an Chest and abdomen X ray. My D/D was 1.Urinary tract infection/cystitis 2. PID So after the xray, Chest Xray-nad, no free gas Abdomen x ray showed IUCD in situ!!!! When I asked here when put in , she said 4-5 yrs, I think. On co-relating all the above I thought of referring the case to OB/Gyne resident to rule out IUCD related infection/perforation. She saw the patient, wrote soft/lax abd. No IUCD perforation. Gave D/D of UTI. And referred the case to next day clinic OBY/Gyne. Patient came back and gave her Bactrim DS bid and Buscopan tabs and gave her clinic next day morning to Urology. I had discussed the case with my on call gen.surg registrar BUT NOT with Urology on call! Day-2 Patients comes to OB/Gyne clinic, seen by registrar and discharged home. Day-3 Patient presents to ER again,this time c/o vomiting and pain upper abdomen. BP-90/60 mmHg,tender epigastrium, white cell 20,000. So seen by Meidcal resident and Admitted as Septic Shock , morning 3 am. Patient was badly managed and refrred to Surgery after admission. USG abdomen-free fluid. Day 3 -9 pm When the surgeons took her to OR on inotropes, laparotomy ,showed thick pus inside, but no perforation or any other pathology. They said most probably IUCD related ascending infection. No rupture/infection of fallopian tubes. Don’t remember how much was the urine output. Patient post-OP was in ICU after 4 hrs arrested and declared dead. Now the sponsors of the servant lodged a complain and want an enquiry into the case. Please let me know how I can defend myself and what are the strong points in favour of me that I decided to discharge the patient. i know deep down that i shudnt have discharged her,, but i just want to ask was my judgment right to send her home with clinic next day. Thank You, Dr.Asif Huda Ansari Please send a copy to e-mail listed below, so that I can reply at the earliest. 1. asifhansari at gmail.com -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/
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