[CCM-L] trauma-list Digest, Vol 63, Issue 38

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If anyone associated with the leadership of these groups wishes to contact
me, they are more than welcome to do so.  The only reason I have not reached
out on my own is because I would prefer to gather a group to put together a
letter to each organization to ask them to take part in a meeting on the
matter at hand.  I am more than willing to take the lead in organizing the
meeting and such, but I would like to see how many people are actually
interested in such a course of action.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Marc Matthews - MedPro MMC X <
Marc_Matthews at medprodoctors.com> wrote:

>  Could not (should not) the AAST, ACS, EAST, West, NFTC and all other
> trauma related organizations lobby Congress (state or national) to stop this
> over-use or is this just naivete at its finest? Wishful thinking or not, is
> there no one or single entity willing to take this challenge head on?
>
> D-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org <trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org>
>  To: Discussion of Critical Care Medicine <ccm-l at ccm-l.org>;
> trauma-list at trauma.org <trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Sent: Mon Sep 29 05:54:58 2008
> Subject: Re: [CCM-L] trauma-list Digest, Vol 63, Issue 38
>
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Arthur Morgan <arthurmorgan2 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Stephen Richey wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>    s.
> >>
> >>  How about we stop beating our heads against a brick wall and cut the
> >> throats of the air ambulance industry by partnering with the insurance
> >> industry to do away with the funding for such services. I know the old
> adage
> >> about getting up with fleas when you lay with dogs, but perhaps the cost
> of
> >> associating with the insurance industry is worth it if we can truly nip
> this
> >> problem in the bud.  Any comments or threats of burning me at the stake
> for
> >> my heresy?
> >>
> >> I am told that this 'plane flew because of severe injuries and bad
> traffic
> > patterns on the road ( possibly due to light rain ).
> > It is possible that the reasons to fly were adequate.
> >
>
> Well, the definition of "severe" in Maryland does not mean much seeing as
> how they tend to lose their damn minds over MOI.  That being said, having
> driven the area in question multiple times, the traffic on the roads at
> that
> time of night is relatively light.  Even in the face of light rain, the
> option of ground transport would still have likely result in more
> expeditious arrival at the hospital when one considers the time delays
> associated with launch and landing of the helicopter.
>
> Until you can show in individual flights that patients and staff were
> > endangered unnecessarily, you will get nowhere.
>
>
> I believe there is plenty of evidence to support this: the literature
> showing no benefit, the NTSB reports stating the helicopters should not
> have
> been flown in X circumstances, etc.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Stephen L. Richey, CRT
> Aviation Injury Research Project Leader
> Saginaw Valley State University
> Work E-mail: slrichey at svsu.edu
> Home Office Phone: 248-366-4452
>
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> momentous issues to the fore and make a decision about them. The weak are
> always forced to decide between alternatives they have not chosen
> themselves."- Dietrich Bonhoeffer
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Stephen L. Richey, CRT
Aviation Injury Research Project Leader
Saginaw Valley State University
Work E-mail: slrichey at svsu.edu
Home Office Phone: 248-366-4452

"It is the characteristic excellence of the strong man that he can bring
momentous issues to the fore and make a decision about them. The weak are
always forced to decide between alternatives they have not chosen
themselves."- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

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