[CCM-L] trauma-list Digest, Vol 63, Issue 38

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In retrospect has anyone ever tried to figure out what percentage of these things occur when VFR are at best marginal? As a non aero guy my gut tells me it is a high number but again do we have any evidence of anything? 

Louis N. Molino, Sr. FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:27:53 
To: Trauma &amp, Critical Care mailing list<trauma-list at trauma.org>
Subject: Re: [CCM-L] trauma-list Digest, Vol 63, Issue 38


I was on the road ( I-95, I-695) that night, traffic was very heavy
and the rain (remnants of a passing hurricane) was also very heavy.  I
 don't know about the necessity of that particular flight but the
traffic and the weather were not good.  I was driving from NJ to
Baltimore.

On 9/29/08, Stephen Richey <stephen.richey at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Arthur Morgan
> <arthurmorgan2 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Stephen Richey wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    s.
>>>
>>>  How about we stop beating our heads against a brick wall and cut the
>>> throats of the air ambulance industry by partnering with the insurance
>>> industry to do away with the funding for such services. I know the old
>>> adage
>>> about getting up with fleas when you lay with dogs, but perhaps the cost
>>> of
>>> associating with the insurance industry is worth it if we can truly nip
>>> this
>>> problem in the bud.  Any comments or threats of burning me at the stake
>>> for
>>> my heresy?
>>>
>>> I am told that this 'plane flew because of severe injuries and bad
>>> traffic
>> patterns on the road ( possibly due to light rain ).
>> It is possible that the reasons to fly were adequate.
>>
>
> Well, the definition of "severe" in Maryland does not mean much seeing as
> how they tend to lose their damn minds over MOI.  That being said, having
> driven the area in question multiple times, the traffic on the roads at that
> time of night is relatively light.  Even in the face of light rain, the
> option of ground transport would still have likely result in more
> expeditious arrival at the hospital when one considers the time delays
> associated with launch and landing of the helicopter.
>
> Until you can show in individual flights that patients and staff were
>> endangered unnecessarily, you will get nowhere.
>
>
> I believe there is plenty of evidence to support this: the literature
> showing no benefit, the NTSB reports stating the helicopters should not have
> been flown in X circumstances, etc.
>
>
>
>
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> Saginaw Valley State University
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