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Sat Oct 18 18:45:24 BST 2008

I would add that I have seen the already published schedule of speakers and topics for the meeting. It is outstanding as is but would be 'ultra' outstanding with this addition.

As usual best place to come for the latest information on trauma critical care management

Norman

Norman McSwain MD
Trauma Director, Charity Hospital
Professor of Surgery, Tulane University
New Orleans LA
504 988 5111
norman.mcswain at tulane.edu <mailto:norman.mcswain at tulane.edu> 

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Subject: RE: Block that PUNT (and panel)

Ken

As usual you are "right on"

Norman

Norman McSwain MD
Trauma Director, Charity Hospital
Professor of Surgery, Tulane University
New Orleans LA
504 988 5111
norman.mcswain at tulane.edu <mailto:norman.mcswain at tulane.edu>

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Sent: Fri 10/17/2008 9:46 PM
To: trauma-list at trauma.org
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Subject: Re: Block that PUNT (and panel)

Dr. Matthews:   I am intrigued by your  suggestion.     My role at the
meeting you cited is to be a  catalyst to bring together in one venue the persons
and subjects you  cited.     It is too late for this year to have a special
day, but I might have a "blue sky" noon session on Tuesday if there is  interest.
      I would never be so presumptuous  as to even know all of the agenda
items or just who all the stakeholders  are.    I do know that today State
Senators from Maryland  began  calling for witnesses to testify to them about this
issue.   I do know that it is better if industry creates the STANDARDS  and
Principles, rather than government creating the  regulations.   

k mattox

In a message dated 10/12/2008 11:01:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Marc_Matthews at medprodoctors.com writes:

Okay,  Trauma.org, then everyone on this list server should form a meeting.
All of  you can get together and discuss it with every single paper ever
written. You  can even invite people that are from the government and those from
outside the  United States and you can bring these great minds together and
wrangle it out.  Imagine the best and the brightest all coming together. Imagine
deciding the  reasons for transport and saving lives from needless death yet
defining the  reasons for the use of such transport and then tracking your
changes. It can  and should be done instead of complaining about others meeting that
will  either white wash this or do it wrong!

Dr. Mattox, every year you bring  together many to a meeting in Las Vegas to
educate. I been there three times.  I have Dr. Wisner, Knudsen, Rhee, the
Dorlacs, Johanigman, Sise, McSwain,  Fildes, Tuggle, and many others, true heroes
that discuss the latest on  trauma, acute care surgery and critical care. You
have even expanded your  meeting to include a Disaster Preparedness ssection.
Why not a day, two or  three somewhere to resolve this issue? Of anyone that
can organize such a  meeting and decide such issues that has the power to org
anize, it is you. It  is a large enough issue for people to have disscussed this
for weeks now. If  somewhere "they" are doing it "wrong", then do it right.
Have that meeting and  then bring it out in the literature and take it up the
stairs to Washington.  Get the ACS COT or NFTC behind you and get the US trauma
world to go to their  representatives and change it.

This website could be the used as a  launch pad to help save lives in an
organized fashion but someone needs to  lead. Now who is it going to be? I
nominate Dr. Mattox and then everyone on  this web server to help who has been so
bold as to write in and speak up. The  squeaky wheel gets the grease! Either that
or we sit here and do nothing. We  need a leader. Who will that be . . . ?

MRM 

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From:  trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org on behalf of KMATTOX at aol.com
Sent: Sat  10/11/2008 7:24 PM
To: trauma-list at trauma.org
Subject: Block that PUNT  (and panel)

My wife is from Oklahoma.    I and many  of my friends are  from Texas.   I
thoroughly enjoyed  watching the Oklahoma/Texas game  today.     I really did
 not
have a dog in the  hunt.    But the game with its swings  back and forth was a
GREAT  game.    I heard the stands  yell, "BLOCK THAT PUNT" even   when the
team came to the line to  try for two points and NOT  PUNT.  

It is with GREAT  sadness and frustration, that I have learned and inform
anyone who wishes  to know, tremendous, TREMENDOUS forces have formed to
BLOCK
that Panel  which is being proposed to be formed to look at safety standards
,
flight criteria,  weather conditions,  charges, and  quality  review by the
regions trauma system.     It is  really SAD  that forces in industry, in
hospitals, and some  individuals have put  considerable pressure on local
agencies,
state  agencies, federal agencies, and  even individuals to state that a
"panel"
is not needed, that the indirect data  is sufficient, and that  deaths have
occurred in ground ambulance  crashes.       A huge diversionary tactic is
being
orchestrated with as great a focus as  either the democratic or republican
presidential and congressional  campaign of 2008.  

If this campaign to BLOCK the PANEL is  successful or even achieves a DELAY,
then the next deaths from a  preventable helicopter crash, carrying a patient
that did not need such a  transport or even a higher level of care, must be
attributable to societal  lethargy and business strong armed  tactics.   

k

In a message dated 10/11/2008 3:17:51 P.M. Central  Daylight Time,
bbledsoe at earthlink.net writes:

Perhaps
"the  panel" will be that  introspection.

Bryan

Bryan Bledsoe,  DO,  FACEP

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