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[CCM-L] Helicopter crashes
cyberg66 at aol.com cyberg66 at aol.comThu Oct 2 09:32:40 BST 2008
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I suspect the?'agreed upon standards' comment refers to the decision-tree in the Maryland EMS protocol that guides field providers in making a decision of where to take a trauma patient. It is virtually a verbatim copy of what is in the ATLS course manual. Recommendations for mode of transportation are also in the EMS protocol but I am not aware of any evidence beyond local consensus to support them. Aeromedical flights are a hazardous business that is not aided by?the obsession with claims x number of missions or flight hours have been flown without a crash. These claims can go on for a long time while conditions brew that lead to?a crash. Then everyone is standing over the wreakage wondering how something so bad could happen in such a 'safe' program. Why were only a minority of the helicopters in the MSP fleet equipped with ground-proximity warning system equipment? Given the value of that equipment in preventing controlled flight into terrain mishaps, what was different about the mission of the GPWS-equipped helicopters from the others in the fleet? There's no reason to believe that the crewmembers who died didn't do everything possible to ensure a safe mission was executed. I question what did MSP Aviation do as an organization to help that aircrew. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Richey <stephen.richey at gmail.com> To: Discussion of Critical Care Medicine <ccm-l at ccm-l.org>; trauma-list at trauma.org; robert. little <Robert.Little at baltsun.com> Sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 8:53 pm Subject: Re: [CCM-L] Helicopter crashes I love (*note: sarcasm) the comment by the Maryland state medical director (next to last paragraph). Since when have their been agreed upon standards for when to call the helicopter? It's simply an item of the laundry list mechanism of injury list that may or may not (most likely the latter) indicate the presence of a serious injury. Good sensitivity, lousy specificity. If this crash doesn't make Dr. Bass pull his head out of whereever he seems to have it stuck (clouds, etc) , then maybe he doesn't have what it takes to effectively lead a state EMS operation which has near totalitarian control over its jurisdiction. I don't believe he is stupid (I've talked to him before and he seems reasonably intelligent) nor do I believe it's malicious or corrupt act on his part. However, he may have been sipping the aeromedical Koolaid for just a little too long like so many others have been. Think of it as a long running selection bias..... Source: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bal-ed.chopper01oct01,0,4234849.story A teenager survives a weekend car accident with little if any physical injuries, only to die in the crash of the Maryland State Police helicopter that was whisking her to a trauma center. Did the 17-year-old really need to be flown to the hospital, especially in such bad weather that night? The chopper transporting Ashley J. Younger and the driver of the car wasn't equipped with an electronic warning device that helps pilots fly in low visibility and avoid crashing into the ground. State police outfitted three other helicopters with the "early ground proximity warning system" during upgrades in recent years; why not the entire fleet? These and many other troubling questions have been raised in the wake of the fatal weekend helicopter crash that is under investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board. NTSB reviews are routine in such cases. But the circumstances of the accident should compel further reviews by the state police, Charles County officials and the Maryland In stitute for Emergency Medical Services Systems, which operates the statewide system of trauma care. Killed in the Sunday morning crash were Ms. Younger; pilot Stephen H. Bunker, 59; Trooper Mickey C. Lippy, 34, a paramedic; and Tonya Mallard, 39, a volunteer emergency medical worker from the Waldorf squad. The driver of the car, Jordan Wells, 18, of Waldorf, also was a patient on the helicopter and was critically injured when the chopper crashed in fog and rain in a wooded area just a few miles from its home base at Andrews Air Force Base. NTSB member Deborah A.P. Hersman, who inspected the crash site, has already characterized the weather conditions that night as "challenging" for the pilot, a veteran and retired state trooper. But did the paramedics on the scene give sufficient thought to transporting the injured by ambulance instead? *Dr. Robert R. Bass, head of MIEMSS, says the extent of the initial car crash - the car's interior was crushed within 12 to 18 inches of a passenger- met one of the national standards for transporting an accident victim by helicopter. The patients complained of chest, back and spine pain that could indicate internal injuries. Was this the right call? The appropriate standard? Should paramedics have consulted with a trauma center physician in such a case before ordering a helicopter?* This was the first fatal crash of a state police medevac helicopter in 22 years; the fleet has had an exemplary safety record. Answering some of these distressing questions may not comfort the families of the brave men and women who died in the accident, but it could help prevent another tragedy. -- Stephen L. Richey, CRT Aviation Injury Research Project Leader Saginaw Valley State University Work E-mail: slrichey at svsu.edu Home Office Phone: 248-366-4452 "It is the characteristic excellence of the strong man that he can bring momentous issues to the fore and make a decision about them. The weak are always forced to decide between alternatives they have not chosen themselves."- Dietrich Bon hoeffer -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/
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