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Bjorn, Pret pbjorn at emh.orgFri Nov 28 13:57:05 GMT 2008
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The inclusion of hospitals on the target list can't shock anyone. We've fretted over the possibility several times on the Trauma-List. But in the real world, large emergency preparedness systems persist in a woeful vacuum of imagination. Regrettably, Mumbai may serve as an opportunity by way of an object lesson. Even in our own highly detailed and sophisticated regional plans here in the bucolic reaches of Maine, protecting the hospitals remains almost exclusively the HOSPITALS' responsibility. Realistically, we're told, law enforcement and the national guard will be absorbed in defending the smoldering rubble of ground zero. Healthcare facilities are thus instructed to initiate lockdown procedures, under the assumption that an internal hospital lockdown of this scale -- and under these conditions -- can somehow be effective. Of course, such is hilariously outside of the healthcare skill set, and American hospitals are security nightmares on the quietest days. As if to punctuate the irony, secondary attacks are actually built into our training scenarios (among a short list of "internal" or "paralytic" disasters), silently asserting that they're inevitable. The organizational, community, and regional plans ANTICIPATE these attacks, but devote no functional systematic resources to PREVENTING them. Especially in this context, we are imperiled by our organizational and philosophical silos. Shamefully, our response is not to abandon the silos, but to INTERCONNECT them, on the fly, literally while the bombs are going off. It's abjectly oxymoronic; a Rube Goldberg solution which serves mostly to defend and perpetuate dangerously restrictive paradigms. Until we can project and protect the needs of civilian healthcare under combat conditions, we must expect the collapse of civilization at the local level. If it comes to that, the most prudent disaster response for healthcare workers will be to run like hell. With any luck, events of recent days will convince us that hospitals are uniquely important, alarmingly vulnerable, and inherently incapable of protecting themselves. The larger the assault, the more imperative it will be to circle the tanks around our hospitals. Pret Bjorn, RN Bangor, ME USA -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of John Annen Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 3:41 AM To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list Subject: Re: Mumbai & other event observations According to media reports, at least one and possibly two hospitals in Mumbai came under attack during the current incident. This represents a terrible aspect of caring for the sick and injured victims of disasters. The safety and security of the hospitals and other institutions providing the care should perhaps receive greater attention. Certainly this issue has been addressed to some extent, but how many of you believe that your own facilities are prepared, should they come under direct attack as part of a terrorist incident? Granted, the chances that any given institution would be attacked are small, which argues against putting substantial resources into the protection of individual hospitals, but when it does happen, I expect the effects can be devistating both for the hospital itself, and for the community and health care system which it serves. Does anyone have more information about the attacks against the hospitals in Mumbai? Has any research been done into the systematic provision of health care in a civian setting while "under fire"? Regards, John Annen Zurich, Switzerland ________________________________ From: "KMATTOX at aol.com" <KMATTOX at aol.com> To: trauma-list at trauma.org Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 1:22:43 AM Subject: Mumbai & other event observations 1. Every since Allison, Katrina, and Ike, I have been pondering the issues of (TRAUMA) surgeon's role in disasters, particularly one like we have just witnessed in Mumbai. I have watched disasters the past 5 years have 4-5 doctors and an additional 4-5 nurses per patient with more than 85% of the disaster causalities at the trauma center having extremely minor conditions. 2. I do believe that the issue of SURGE has been both UNDER and OVER emphasized. It is poorly understood. I am very curious as to what the real surge was at Charity in New Orleans, at the major hospital in Minneapolis, at the designated trauma centers in Washington DC and NYC during 911, during the fires in California, at Parkland during Katrina, In San Antonio, etc. In the USA, except for a stressful Friday night in the ER, we have not really experienced Disaster Surge. 3. Despite the rhetoric, we in the USA have more lectures about SURGE, than we have had experience. 4. In Mumbai, the very few trauma centers certainly has significant SURGE with their more than 300 blast and GSW victim, although, I calculate the 24 hr surge there to be less than 25 patients, making the CITY WIDE surge only 1/hr if my calculations are correct. 5. I would like to chat off line with the few persons in the USA (and outside if really experienced and interested) who have had experience with large simultaneous experience with penetrating trauma, other than the "busy Friday and Saturday night". I would request that interested persons contact me (_Kmattox at aol.com_ (mailto:Kmattox at aol.com) ) or Dr. Norman McSwain ( _nmcswai at tulane.edu_ (mailto:nmcswai at tulane.edu) ) of your interest and experience. I have a couple of hypotheses I would like to discuss with those who have really really been there. 6. Recall that ALL TRAUMA DISASTERS are LOCAL. This is a time for the kind of interactive collaborative networks that we see in Connecticut, Texas, and elsewhere. It is the kind of network which was headed by Dr. Ron Stewart for the 5 state ACS Region VI during Katrina and Ike. That worked like a charm. 7. After a great deal of reflection and analysis, I am also about ready to give strong recommendation that the entire OUTSIDE Physician assistance response for TRAUMA disasters be totally reanalyzed, rethought, and reorganized. This includes: DMAT, NDMS, Rangers, etc. There are a significant number of problems with these concepts and a number of areas that did not work during the recent disasters in the USA. I would call upon the Disaster Committees of the AMA, AHA, ACS, ACEP, and others to seriously honestly look hard at what we all have learned together the past 10 years about real time MEDICAL DISASTER. I am not talking about evacuations, shelters, public health, etc. I'm talking about the first 24-36 hours. I look forward to hearing from a few good men and women who have been there and done that. I want to exercise your brain. Kenneth L. Mattox, MD PS Norm McSwain and I have already chatted. We do not have solutions, we do have some questions and observations. k **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002) -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/
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