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Tue Nov 25 19:26:55 GMT 2008

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:24 PM, LouIs N. Molino, Sr. <lnmolino at aol.com>wrote:

> I agree that as many LZs as practical presesignated is a good thing. I also
> belive both the air services and the ground services that use them need to
> me involved in that process.
>

Agreed.

>
> I also have to ask for a validation of that last statement is that
> statement based on anecdote, gut, or verifiable facts?

Minimize the issue that contributes to/causes the crash, you remove the
reduce the chance of it happening again.  I am still working on putting
together a partial list of the crashes related to scene flights.  I should
have for you within the hour.

>
>
> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET
> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI
> Typed by my thumbs on my iPhone.
>
> On Nov 25, 2008, at 12:27, "Stephen Richey" <stephen.richey at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Then what is the problem with designating more LZs?  It is not that
>> difficult and could prevent quite a few accidents.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:25 PM, LouIs N. Molino, Sr. <lnmolino at aol.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  The short run is the iasue. In my VFD area we cover 130 square miles. In
>>> that we have 4 desginsted LZs. The last patient we flew wads hunter fell
>>> from a tree stand landed on bow impaling self. By ground a 30 mile drive
>>> to
>>> nearest LZ we set LZ 3 miles up road in a large open field.
>>>
>>> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET
>>> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI
>>> Typed by my thumbs on my iPhone.
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 2008, at 12:12, Krin135 at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, Lou, point two, avoiding landings at un surveyed sites,  would
>>>
>>>> not
>>>> eliminate HEMS here in Missouri, as there are numerous sites already
>>>> surveyed
>>>> for helispot operations, and many more could be surveyed and GPS
>>>> coordinated
>>>> in short order. I suspect that rural Texas is the same.
>>>>
>>>> a relatively short run from the incident site to the helispot, and the
>>>> objection is gone.
>>>>
>>>> ck
>>>> Charles S. Krin, DO FAAFP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 11/25/2008 11:54:41 Central Standard Time,
>>>> lnmolino at aol.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> But  point 2 would eliminate the use of HEMS in rural and frontier
>>>> areas  where it MAY actually be  warrented.
>>>>
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