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Mon Nov 24 18:44:30 GMT 2008

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:39 PM, McSwain, Norman E Jr.
<nmcswai at tulane.edu>wrote:

> Sounds like the decisions have been made by the choices of the
> participants.

I was thinking that too.

BTW I was told about the  panel and then uninvited when they heard of my
> thoughts about protocols for dispatch.

That sounds about par for the course that is MIEMMS.  They will work with
you until they realize they can't bend you to their will, which is probably
why they would not even ask Dr. Mattox to participate.

>
>
> Norman
>
> Norman McSwain MD
> Professor, Tulane School of Medicine
> Trauma Director, Charity Hospital Trauma Center
> norman.mcswain at tulane.edu
> 504 988 5111
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Richey
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:27 PM
> To: Trauma &amp, Critical Care mailing list
> Subject: Re: Maryland Air Ambulance Review Panel
>
> *Pro helicopter
> **Dr. Stephen H. Thomas*, author of several research papers that support
> the
> use of helicopters to transport patients;
> *Ellen Mackenzie*, a researcher at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of
> Public Health with numerous publications on the best way to use
> helicopters
> *Tom Judge*, director of a helicopter service in Bangor, Maine
> *Dr. John A. Morris*, a trauma surgeon at Vanderbilt University Medical
> Center and medical director of their Lifeflight service
> *Dr. Robert C. MacKersie*, a trauma surgeon at San Francisco General
> Hospital;  and I quote:
>
> > "*It is difficult to understand why a city the size of San Francisco
> does
> > not have any medical air transport.  The congested roads and bridges
> with
> > the surrounding water make helicopter service an essential medical
> support
> > service."*
>
>
> *Critical of Helicopters
> **Dr. Bryan E. Bledsoe*
>
> *Unsure*
> *William R. Metcalf*, a former Anne Arundel County firefighter who is
> chief
> of the North County Fire Protection District in suburban San Diego
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Robert Smith <rfsmithmd at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Stephen could you post the list of members again? I lost it. At the
> time I
> > thought it sounded like a very robust panel.
> >
> > Rob Smith
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:
> > trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
> > On Behalf Of Stephen Richey
> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:19 PM
> > To: Trauma &amp, Critical Care mailing list
> > Subject: Re: Maryland Air Ambulance Review Panel
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:12 PM, <KMATTOX at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting review process.     I hope and trust that  the panel was
> not
> > > overly "packed" with only one side of this  issue.
> >
> >
> > I know they include 2 or 3 persons who have openly stated their
> support of
> > helicopters in the past and have someone from an aeromedical
> operation.
> > Honestly the only person there who has been openly critical of the use
> of
> > helicopters is Dr. Bledsoe.  I fear that his concerns, advice and
> knowledge
> > will be drowned out in the name of protecting the status quo.
> >
> >
> > >     I do know that I was not consulted or even  contacted by the
> panel,
> > and
> > > that is OK.   I have had concerns about standards of inclusion as to
> just
> > > who should and should not be flown and under what circumstances.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I do hope that all sides of  this issue are put out into the open.
> >
> >
> > Agreed.
> >
> > >    This is a real  opportunity for some real leadership.
> > >
> >
> > What is a total shame is that the original flagship of trauma care and
> > arguably one of the most organized (perhaps overly organized) state
> EMS
> > system could have used this tragedy to further improve their position
> in
> > the
> > field by embracing the appropriate changes but so far the leadership
> of
> > both
> > have done nothing but posture and try to whitewash the public by
> clouding
> > the issue with emotion and personal opinion.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Stephen L. Richey, CRT
> > Aviation Injury Research Project Leader
> > Saginaw Valley State University
> > Work E-mail: slrichey at svsu.edu
> > Home Office Phone: 248-366-4452
> >
> > "Hier stehe ich. Ich kann nicht anders. Gott helfe mir. Amen."- Martin
> > Luther, before the Diet of Worms, 16. April 1521
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> Stephen L. Richey, CRT
> Aviation Injury Research Project Leader
> Saginaw Valley State University
> Work E-mail: slrichey at svsu.edu
> Home Office Phone: 248-366-4452
>
> "Hier stehe ich. Ich kann nicht anders. Gott helfe mir. Amen."- Martin
> Luther, before the Diet of Worms, 16. April 1521
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-- 
Stephen L. Richey, CRT
Aviation Injury Research Project Leader
Saginaw Valley State University
Work E-mail: slrichey at svsu.edu
Home Office Phone: 248-366-4452

"Hier stehe ich. Ich kann nicht anders. Gott helfe mir. Amen."- Martin
Luther, before the Diet of Worms, 16. April 1521

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