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Laparoscopy in trauma
McSwain, Norman E Jr. nmcswai at tulane.eduSun Nov 23 00:02:25 GMT 2008
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Tim Yes it *can* be an indication but *should* it? A hole in the diaphragm is just like a hole in the peritoneum from any other direction. This is violation of the peritoneum, it is not sign of repairable injury. I have not read those studies for a while, but using identification of "repairable injury" as a positive outcome and no "repairable injury" as a negative outcome, I do not believe that they showed any different outcome than did Nance or Shafton. This would make the general anesthesia and the insertion of the laparoscopy an unnecessary operation. And Yes, I know that many of today's surgeons (or at least this is true of the younger surgeons in the US), can (will) no longer do effective abdominal examinations, and they VOMIT, but that does not make the principle incorrect Use the indications that Nance described. 1) significant blood loss = uncontrolled hemorrhage, 2) acute abdomen = hole in the GI tract go to the OR for a laparotomy. Otherwise after 24 hours of observation with *serial physical examinations*, if neither #1 or #2 have developed then discharge home without any operation Norman Norman McSwain Jr, MD FACS Trauma Director Charity Hospital Professor of Surgery Tulane University School of Medicine 504 988 5111 -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Dr Timothy Hardcastle Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 12:12 PM To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list Subject: RE: Laparoscopy in trauma > There is very little if any use for the laparoscopy in the primary > assessment and management of either blunt or penetrating trauma of the > abdomen. >VATS is different. It can be used for the management of hemorrhage in > most chest injuries. It can be used to identify diaphragmatic > perforation ( and the potential need for a laparotomy). And it is > cheaper in complications, time and money than a thoracotomy > > The chest and abdomen are two different cavities, two different types of > problems tow different kinds of complications and two different > outcomes. Do not try to compare these in the same thought process > > Norman > > Norman McSwain Jr, MD FACS > Trauma Director Charity Hospital > Professor of Surgery > Tulane University School of Medicine > 504 988 5111 Norm Maybe one place for lap-scope is where VATS not available and there is lower left chest stab (not GSW) looking for occult diaphragm injury. At least three large series supporting this. Tim Dr T C Hardcastle M.B., Ch.B. (Stell); M. Med. (Chir) (Stell); FCS (SA) Principal Specialist Trauma Surgeon / Honorary Lecturer UKZN Dept Surgery Deputy Director - IALCH Trauma Service -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/
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