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julie miller jamiller444 at yahoo.comWed May 7 22:04:43 BST 2008
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Dear Ian, We send patients with grade IV or V to ICU for the first day (we don't have an HDU), as our ward nurses are stretched somewhat thin. We know then that a new tachycardia or drop in urine output will be picked up earlier than if they are on the ward. I also like to vaccinate the high grade spleens just in case the spleen will be taking a walk. If there is a contrast blush on CT, or a drop in Hb in the first day with markedly increased blood on a repeat CT (obtained only if drop in Hb), we have recently begun requesting angioembolization from our very accommodating interventional radiologists.All things being equal, it's better to have your spleen than not (many patients retain splenic function after embolization), and it is better not to have a laparotomy than to have one (no incisional hernias, shorter LOS, etc). We typically keep patients 3 days if they have stable Hb and have no ileus. I recently saw some great data from the NTDB with many thousands of patients, that 95% of failures occur in the first 72 hours, then the curve flattens completely and you would have to keep patients 30 days to capture 99% of failures. (published J Trauma 2008) The main thing is to encourage patients to take it easy, and to return if they feel unwell, dizzy, etc. after discharge. I cannot recall any readmissions for spleens, but we had one renal injury return with collapse from a ruptured psuedoaneurysm that was successfully embolized. Julie Miller Royal Melbourne Hospital Australia ----- Original Message ---- From: Matt Oliver <moliverzw at gmail.com> To: "Trauma & Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 10:29:53 PM Subject: RE: Blunt splenic injuries Ian ICU for 24 hours. Matt Oliver Bendigo Australia -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Ian Seppelt Sent: Wednesday, 7 May 2008 4:50 PM To: trauma-list at trauma.org Subject: Blunt splenic injuries Quick and dirty survey: Where do you nurse haemodynamically stable patients with an isolated spleen injury being managed conservatively, and no other injuries? ICU? General ward? Higher acuity ward? What acuity of nursing? What monitors? Does the exact CT grade of injury matter, or merely the fact that the patient is stable and the trauma surgeon is comfortable to watch? Many thanks, Ian correspondence to: seppelt at med.usyd.edu.au Ian Seppelt FANZCA FJFICM Senior Staff Specialist Dept of Intensive Care Medicine The Nepean Hospital, PO Box 63 Penrith NSW 2751 Director of Clinical Research, Sydney West AHS Clinical Lecturer, University of Sydney ____________________________________________________________________________ __ This electronic message and any attachments may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this message would you please delete the message and any attachments and advise the sender. Sydney West Area Health Service (SWAHS) uses virus scanning software but excludes any liability for viruses contained in any email or attachment. This email may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this email is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify SWAHS immediately. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly and with authority states them to be the views of SWAHS. -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/
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