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popliteal angiography for asymptomatic knee dislocations
Timothy Craig Hardcastle TimothyHar at ialch.co.zaWed Jul 30 07:09:07 BST 2008
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Sal Call me old fashioned, but it is considered negligent by the authorities in South Africa to not angio the posterior knee disloc. I know the counter literature, but your case illustrates the problem - I've seen an occlusion on day 7 of one not angio'ed by a peripheral rural hospital. Luckily we could save the leg. No experience with stent-grafts in Pop vessels personally, but the experience with long-term patency and the need for a secondary intervention with stents for thoracic outlet penetrating injuries (see the work of DF du Toit et. al.) shows that the asymptomatic occlusion rates are fairly high. In the pop segment there is poor collaterals and I would be worried about long-term problems. I suppose the thrombolysis may work, although the question is whether you have recruited any previously dubious muscle? Regards, Tim Dr Timothy C Hardcastle M.B., Ch.B. (Stell); M. Med (Chir) (Stell); FCS (SA) Principal Surgeon-Lecturer / Sub-specialist: Trauma and Critical Care Deputy director: Trauma Unit and Trauma ICU Inkosi Albert Luthuli Central Hospital / UKZN 800 Bellair Road Mayville, Durban Postal: PostNet Suite 27 Private Bag X05 Malvern, 4055 KwaZulu Natal timothyhar at ialch.co.za -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of sjasmd at aol.com Sent: 30 July 2008 06:36 To: trauma-list at trauma.org Subject: popliteal angiography for asymptomatic knee dislocations I would have enjoyed more discussion of the pros and cons of performing angiography for asymptomatic knee dislocations. It would seem from the few posts that there are some who still perform angiography. We had begun to dismiss this procedure because of an overwhelming amount of fairly good data published in the past decade that showed that signs of vascular injury are almost always present when angiography is positive in detecting popliteal artery injury and that detecting injury in the absence of signs by angiography is uncommon. We recently saw an obese ?patient who dislocated her knee anteriorly who underwent angiography three days after the injury because the orthopedic service wanted angiography prior to planning knee repair. Angiography showed intraluminal thrombus and intimal flaps with thrombus on them?in the midpopliteal artery. Luminal diameter was compromised about 80%. Distal run-off angiography showed occlusion of the entire posterior tibial artery and embolism of the midportion of the peroneal. The anterior tibial artery was normal. see attached We elected to place a stent graft over?the injured segment and trap the thrombus under it.?We introduced? a 22 mm atrium stent and applied it exactly at the site of the injury. Anatomical appearance returned with good flow. patient was discharged the next day and will undergo elective reconstruction of the knee. any comments? about use of angiography for knee dislocations about use of stent graft in popliteal artery about use of thrombolysis for the peroneal embolism thanks SAL SCLAFANI
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