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Gee this seems to be an US against THEM and there will ALWAYS  be an US and  
a THEM in all professions.  

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In a message dated 7/15/2008 9:07:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
janeharper at mac.com writes:

I would  challenge the statement about student loans -- having over $200,000
of them  myself, I know about working under a student loan burden.   Don't
forget, the average nurse right now is in her 40's and trying to put  her
CHILDREN through college ...

One of the upsides of having worked  in a small physician practice is that I
was in the same office with all  four of the partners and was privy to their
phone discussions with their  tax preparers at the end of the year.  The
YOUNGEST of the four  partners paid taxes on more than $400,000 his 3rd or
4th year in the  practice, and he was no "specialized proceduralist", but
rather a general  surgeon.

Physicians and nurses could be natural allies, but economics  trumps
everything and personally, I'm reluctant to stake my future on  supporting
folks who would deny me the right, after eighteen years of  pursuing a PhD,
to call myself 'doctor' when I  finish...

Jane

On 7/15/08 8:45 AM, "Jeff Myers, D.O., Ed.M."  <myersj at alum.rpi.edu> wrote:

> Jane Harper wrote:
>>  It's easy to say that physicians and nurses should stand together --  but
>> which of the two professions can better survive a work  stoppage, a new
>> graduate nurse who (in this crappy economy) is  sole support for a husband
>> and three children or a physician  making $400,000 a year?
>> 
>> Jane
>>    
> Jane,
> 
> Two comments:
> 
> 1) Except for a  small handful of specialized proceduralists, the
> overwhelming majority  of the physicians you come in contact with may
> less than half of that  figure, some close to 25%
> 
> 2) The average physician in the US  comes out of their education with 3 -
> 4 times the students loans that  the new nurse does.  For physicians that
> are less than ten years  out, there isn't much difference in disposable
> income.
>  
> If the nurses and physicians do not stick together, period, and  support
> each other, then the system fails.
> 
> Jeff  Myers, D.O.
> 

-- 
Jane Harper, PhD(c), RN, APN
Trauma  Nurse Practitioner, Rockford,  IL

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