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Tue Jul 1 20:00:15 BST 2008

Friends.   This discussion is already started at the consumer, federal, and payer levels.   Soon the insurance companies and Medicare will not pay the higher air fairs where a ground ems exists.  The public consumer now knows that air is overused and is less safe.    Yes.  It is time to discuss.   

K

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Subject: Re: med copters collide

Andrew,

I think that's a BS answer to Bill's commentary and I  think it's beneath you.

We all know that if he refuses calls, sooner or later  they will find someone 
else who WILL come, and then he gets fewer and fewer  calls, probably goes 
out of business, etc.  THAT won't fix the problem(s).  Some things just have to 
be and education starts the process.  

I agree we need to have this discussion NOW.  Doc  B. is one of those who 
have been trying to jump-start this dialog for a LONG  time and look where HE 
got.  We ALL need to have this discussion - a  realistic one.  And it needs to 
start with the providers and their local  Medical Directors.  

Respectfully,

Kat Rickey
NH/USA
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In a message dated 7/1/2008 2:10:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
andrewj.bowman at gmail.com writes:

So,  start refusing calls. There is no law (I do not think) that says you 
have  to take every flight especially if the facts presented do not warrant 
air  transport.

Andrew

I'm sick
> of my flight crew  being called out in all kinds of weather for
> uninjured, intoxicated  patients. For times when the ground crew is about
> to go off shift and  don't want to drive the hour round trip. For a dog
> bite to the foot.  And it goes on and on and on.

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