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Tue Dec 30 14:24:59 GMT 2008

It is acceptable to "yell" at a person a block away that you see is about  to 
be hit by an unseen and unheard 18 wheeler about to hit the  person.   The 
yell is to get their attention and to hope that the  warning will cause the 
imperiled person to get out of the way.    

In an operating room, shock room, ICU, or other areas where critical  
patients accumulate, the trained team (and even those in training) look to the  
leaders in the room to bring order out of chaos.     To be  able to walk into a 
room and bring calm, bring order, bring organization, and  bring confidence to 
all members of the treating team is a responsibility, a sign  of 
professionalism.     

Yelling is a symptom of a number of other diseases: 

- failure to communicate prior to the operation or procedure to those in  the 
room as to what one will desire to do the jobs.

- a sign of insecurity on ones own part in knowing just what to do, the  
order of when to do it, and how to lead others. 

- a sign that the leader never was in control, or has other unmet needs  
which need to be identified and treated.   

- many others

For the sake of future patients, the yeller should go to charm  school.   

For many operations, there is no need for ANY verbal exchange if the  
preparation and communications have been done well.    Just  listen to the classical 
(or C&W) music and focus on the job to be  done.     

k

In a message dated 12/30/2008 5:55:56 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
gdoig at med.usyd.edu.au writes:

No,  it is not acceptable to yell at your team. Here in OZ we call that   
'bullying'. Elsewhere it is likely called  abuse...

Gordon

Quoting Angela  <angie504 at hotmail.com>:

>
> I work with a pariticular  trauma surgeon and he loses his temper  
> easily and resorts to  yelling and screaming at all staff until hiis  
> orders are done  and things go his way overall .  My trauma team are  
> no  amateurs and have a good flow when it' s gets busy.  Your walking   
> on egg shells around him because no one  knows what will upset  him.   
> And he never says ," sorry for acting out of line."  Thouhghts?
>
> JMH hospital , MIami
>
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>> Today's  Topics:
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>>    1. Re: trauma-list Digest, Vol  66, Issue 28 (luisfr28 at gmail.com)
>>    2. Ang: John Pryor,  M.D. (Johan Malmgren)
>>    3. new text - Essentials of  Terror Medicine (Jeffrey Hammond)
>>
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>>  Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:47:39 +0000
>> From:  luisfr28 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: trauma-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue  28
>> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
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>> Sadness and violence reflects  the enviroment of conflicts like irak  
>> does, but Dr Pryor  had vissions and reflections about the civilian  
>> violence  and war, his washington post article shows it, like a  
>>  surgeon , like a man, from Venezuela ,i present my repect and   
>> really sorry your loss..
>> Enviado desde mi BlackBerry  de Movistar
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Date: Mon, 29 Dec  2008 12:00:10
>> To: <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>>  Subject: trauma-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue  28
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>> Today's  Topics:
>>
>>    1. Re: John Pryor MD  (listasmsd)
>>    2. Re: John Pryor MD (Sohail  Muzammil)
>>    3. Re: John Pryor, M.D.  (nappio at aol.com)
>>    4. Re: John Pryor, M.D. (Karim  Brohi)
>>    5. Re: John Pryor, M.D. (Forrest  Robleto)
>>
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>>  Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:27:10 -0400
>> From:  "listasmsd" <listasmsd at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: John Pryor  MD
>> To: "Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list"  <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> Message-ID:  <7472F9B54BAA456096E8F96F0D453419 at compaq>
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>>
>> Meaning  what a pity? or very sorry? or it hurts?
>> cordially
>>  Manuel Sotelo
>> Caracas D.C.
>>
>>
>> Que  lastima!!!
>>
>> Charlene
>> in  NC.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:12 PM,  <moore677 at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >From Pat  Reilly at Penn............
>> >
>> >
>> >  -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Patrick M. Reilly  <reillyp at uphs.upenn.edu>
>> > To: Forrest O. Moore  <moore677 at aol.com>
>> > Sent: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 9:43  am
>> > Subject: EAST Mail: John Pryor MD
>>  >
>> >
>> >
>> > I've tried to call  many of the Penn Trauma family personally over the 
last
>> >  several hours.  I apologize if I have not gotten through to you.   
You're
>> > welcome
>> > to give me call if you would  like.
>> >
>> > Sorry to need to forward this  email...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  It is with profound sadness and an overwhelming sense of loss that we  
send
>> > this
>> > communication. Last evening we  were notified that Major John Pryor was
>> > killed by
>>  > enemy fire in Iraq. John was serving his second tour as a combat  
surgeon
>> > with
>> > the United States Army. He  deployed on December 6th and had been on
>> > location
>>  > with a forward surgical team.
>> >
>>  >
>> >
>> > John came to the University of  Pennsylvania in 1999 after completing his
>> > surgical training  at the State University of New York in Buffalo. After
>> >  his
>> > Fellowship in trauma surgery and critical care he joined  the faculty of
>> > the
>> > Department of Surgery and  currently was serving as the Trauma Program
>> >  Director
>> > for the Hospital of the University of  Pennsylvania.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>  > "JP" was a magical man, with boundless energy and goodness. He as was  a
>> > devoted
>> > son, husband, father, colleague  and friend. He was an outstanding
>> > physician,
>> >  gifted surgeon, teacher and mentor. At his core were many great values  
but
>> > his
>> > passion for service to others and  gave back something to each and 
everyone
>> > of
>> >  us, everyday. His favorite quote, by Albert Schweitzer, hangs in  his
>> > office
>> > and
>> > it captures  the essence of John Pryor.
>> >
>> >
>>  >
>> >            ".. Seek always  to do some good, somewhere. Every man has to
>> > seek  in
>> > his own way to realize his true worth. You must give some  time to your
>> > fellow
>> > man. Even if it's a  little thing, do something for those who need help,
>> > something  for which you get no pay but the privilege of doing it. For
>> >  remember,
>> > you don't lie in a world all your own. Your  brothers are here, too."
>> >
>> >
>>  >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>  >
>> >  John's sudden death while serving as a physician  on the battlefield, 
is a
>> > very
>> > personal loss  for the many of us who have worked side by side with him 
in
>> >  our
>> > Emergency Department,  OR's and ICU's, and all the  more stark coming
>> > unexpectedly in this h
>> >  oliday season. All of us have lost one of our "brothers".
>> > Our  thoughts are with his wife Carmella Calvo, their three children  and
>> > all
>> > the
>> >  family.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > We  will pass on further information about services and ways in which  we
>> > can
>> > help
>> > the Pryor  family as they become available.
>> >
>> >
>>  >
>> >
>> >
>> > C. William Schwab  MD
>> >
>> > Chief, Division of Trauma and Critical  Care
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > James  Mullen MD
>> >
>> > Interim Chair, Department of  Surgery
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>  >
>> >
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>>
>>
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>> Go instead where there is no path  and leave a trail. "
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>> Message: 2
>>  Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:12:24 +0500
>> From: "Sohail Muzammil"  <sohailmuzammil at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: John Pryor  MD
>> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Dear Dr  Mattox,
>>
>> A very touching eulogy for a fallen comrade.  My prayers go out to all 
lives
>> so needlessly lost to this; indeed  to all conflicts. It is a sad 
reflection
>> on the state of humanity  that arguments still need to be settled with 
sharp
>> instruments and  explosives. It remains our onerous duty to patch up as 
best
>> we can  the results of man's inhumanity to man; and perhaps raise a voice
>>  against this insanity (as you Dr. Mattox often do).
>>
>>  Regards
>> S Muzammil, FRCS
>>
>> PS: Eid Al Adha  (and the Hajj) passed recently. Ramadan was about a couple
>> of  months ago.
>> .....................
>> ....Third, how so  very sad to loose John Pryor during this special time of
>>  the
>> year.    For all of the major faiths with which we  in the United  States 
are
>> most familiar, their festive and  holy times are now:   Christianity,
>> Judaism,
>>  Islam, Quanza.    Yes, even Ramadan is   now......
>>
>> ....We each will rededicate our genetically  predetermined professionalism 
to
>> be
>> built on the  foundations of your work.
>>
>> Kenneth L. Mattox,  MD
>> Houston
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>>  Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:19:23 +0000
>> From:  nappio at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: John Pryor, M.D.
>> To:  "Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list"  <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> Message-ID:
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>> Karim, although there may be  countless individuals throughout the  
>> year that may benefit  from good will, I feel during this special  
>> season many on  the trauma.org site would like very much to show  
>> their  support to the Pryor family thru a scholarship donation for  
>>  his children. Possibly directly into a 529 savings plan.  Is that   
>> something the list administration could consider spearheading  or  
>> any colleagues' of his who are on the list?David  Napoliello md facs
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless  BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  From: KMATTOX at aol.com
>>
>> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008  15:04:47
>> To: <ccm-l at ccm-l.org>;  <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> Cc:  <SURGINET at listserv.utoronto.ca>
>> Subject: John Pryor,  M.D.
>>
>>
>> To the many families, friends, and  colleagues of Dr. John Pryor.
>>
>> First, John died doing  what he and all on these lists are genetically
>> programmed to do -  care for their fellow men and women, give them a  
>> chance  at
>> survival and recovery and to return them as a functional member  of  
society.
>> John trained in his chosen profession to be  the  medical adventurer  
>> that is an
>>  understandable underlying and unquenchable force  which is present   
>> in each of
>> us.    Going to the heart of  danger,  both in the large inner city  
>> hospital  as
>> well as in a war in bay off lands, we  see the toughest of  the  
>> tough; the task
>> which others might retreat  or shirk  from, John found his peace while
>> attempting to  piece together the most complex  of cases.
>>
>>  Second, John understood the illogic of his chosen field of trauma   
surgery.
>> He understood that the streets of Philadelphia were just  as   
>> dangerous as the
>> venues of hostility  in a country at war.   He  understood that he was
>>  predestined to be in the heat of the battle, whether it  be   
>> Philadelphia or Mosal.
>>   It was his fate to  patch  up the secondary effects of man's inhumanity 
to
>>  man.    Yes, in  an ideal world preventive strategies would  completely
>> eliminate the area of  surgical skill where John  was most skilled  
>> and comfortable, the
>> need for  John  Pryor's in the future will never be eliminated.      
>> Now and for
>>  the long foreseeable future, the  acute care trauma critical care surgeon
>> will at  the pinnacle  of physicians in demand and needed in  
>> communities  around
>> the  world, especially the United  States.
>>
>> Third, how so very sad to loose John Pryor  during this special time of the
>> year.    For all of the  major faiths with which we in the United  States 
are
>> most  familiar, their festive and holy times are now:    
>>  Christianity, Judaism,
>> Islam, Quanza.    Yes, even  Ramadan is  now.
>>
>> Some on these list knew John  Pryor very well and their loss is most  
severe.
>>  Our  hearts, prayers, support, and understanding are extended  to  them.
>> Some knew John peripherally or were just learning of  his  developing 
career
>> trajectory.   Still others  only suffer as they know  John  
>> represents the kind  of
>> surgical spirit that all surgeons possess.   Yes,  John Pryor has the 
trauma
>> surgeon's genome.   There is  no need  for question or discussion.    
>> We each in  our
>> own way know exactly why  John was in Iraq.    On another day, the loss 
could
>> have been any one  of  us.
>>
>> John:  as a soldier, we respect and salute  you.
>>           as a teacher,  we  seek to emulate you.
>>         as a visionary, we  support you.
>>     as a surgeon we  recognize your master  skills
>>           as a human,  we  applaud and memorialize your unique and lasting
>>  contributions.
>>
>> We each will rededicate our genetically  predetermined professionalism to 
be
>> built on the foundations of  your work.
>>
>> Kenneth L. Mattox, MD
>>  Houston
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>>  Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:52:07 +0000
>> From: "Karim Brohi"  <karimbrohi at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: John Pryor,  M.D.
>> To: "Trauma &amp, Critical Care mailing list"  <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> DavidOf  course.  I'm happy for trauma.org to coordinate this, although  
it'll
>> be a little difficult for me to set up from here.  If  you or someone close
>> to John can set this up we can make donations  available through the 
website.
>>  Otherwise I could set up a  Paypal account for people to donate to and 
then
>> forward proceeds  to his family or an appropriate intermediary.
>> I know John was  close to many people on this list, in the US and
>> internationally,  and we'll do everything we can to help his family.
>>  Karim
>>
>> 2008/12/28  <nappio at aol.com>
>>
>> > Karim, although there may  be countless individuals throughout the  
>> year  that
>> > may benefit from good will, I feel during this special  season many on 
the
>> > trauma.org site would like very much to  show their support to the Pryor
>> > family thru a scholarship  donation for his children. Possibly  
>> directly  into
>> > a 529 savings plan.  Is that something the list  administration could
>> > consider spearheading or any colleagues'  of his who are on the 
list?David
>> > Napoliello md  facs
>> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>  >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From:  KMATTOX at aol.com
>> >
>> > Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008  15:04:47
>> > To: <ccm-l at ccm-l.org>;  <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> > Cc:  <SURGINET at listserv.utoronto.ca>
>> > Subject: John Pryor,  M.D.
>> >
>> >
>> > To the many families,  friends, and colleagues of Dr. John Pryor.
>> >
>> >  First, John died doing what he and all on these lists are  genetically
>> > programmed to do - care for their fellow men and  women, give them a 
chance
>> > at
>> > survival and  recovery and to return them as a functional member of
>> >   society.
>> > John trained in his chosen profession to be  the  medical  
>> adventurer that is
>> >  an
>> > understandable underlying and unquenchable force   which is present in 
each
>> > of
>> > us.     Going to the heart of danger,  both in the large inner  
>>  city hospital
>> > as
>> > well as in a war in bay off  lands, we  see the toughest of the tough; 
the
>> >  task
>> > which others might retreat or shirk  from, John  found his peace while
>> > attempting to piece together the most  complex  of cases.
>> >
>> > Second, John  understood the illogic of his chosen field of trauma  
>>   surgery.
>> > He understood that the streets of Philadelphia were  just as  dangerous 
as
>> > the
>> > venues of  hostility in a country at war.   He  understood that he  was
>> > predestined to be in the heat of the battle, whether  it  be  
>> Philadelphia or
>> >  Mosal.
>> >  It was his fate to patch  up the secondary  effects of man's inhumanity 
to
>> > man.    Yes,  in  an ideal world preventive strategies would completely
>>  > eliminate the area of  surgical skill where John was most skilled  and
>> > comfortable, the
>> > need for John   Pryor's in the future will never be eliminated.    Now  
and
>> > for
>> >  the long foreseeable future,  the acute care trauma critical care 
surgeon
>> > will at  the  pinnacle of physicians in demand and needed in communities
>> >  around
>> > the  world, especially the United  States.
>> >
>> > Third, how so very sad to loose John  Pryor during this special time of 
the
>> > year.    For  all of the major faiths with which we in the United  States
>>  > are
>> > most familiar, their festive and holy times are  now:   Christianity,
>> > Judaism,
>> >  Islam, Quanza.    Yes, even Ramadan is  now.
>>  >
>> > Some on these list knew John Pryor very well and their  loss is most
>> >  severe.
>> >  Our hearts,  prayers, support, and understanding are extended  to them.
>>  > Some knew John peripherally or were just learning of his    
>> developing career
>> > trajectory.   Still  others only suffer as they know  John represents the
>> >  kind of
>> > surgical spirit that all surgeons  possess.   Yes, John Pryor has  
>> the  trauma
>> > surgeon's genome.   There is no need   for question or discussion.  
>>   We each
>>  > in our
>> > own way know exactly why  John was in  Iraq.   On another day, the loss
>> > could
>>  > have been any one  of us.
>> >
>> >  John:  as a soldier, we respect and salute you.
>> >   as a teacher, we  seek to emulate  you.
>> >          as a visionary,  we  support you.
>> >          as a  surgeon we  recognize your master skills
>> >     as a human, we  applaud and memorialize your unique  and lasting
>> > contributions.
>> >
>> >  We each will rededicate our genetically predetermined  
>>  professionalism to be
>> > built on the foundations of your  work.
>> >
>> > Kenneth L. Mattox, MD
>> >  Houston
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>  >
>> >
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>>
>> Message: 5
>>  Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:19:37 -0500
>> From: "Forrest Robleto"  <farcpr at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: John Pryor, M.D.
>>  To: "Trauma &amp, Critical Care mailing list"  <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> I'm not  too far away,  I check tomorrow to see what it would take to  set
>> this up.
>>
>>
>>  V/R
>>
>> Forrest Robleto
>> R House Health &  Safety
>> www.RHouseTraining.com
>>  FRobleto at RhouseTraining.com
>>  609-792-9047
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Fran  Lebowitz  - "My favorite animal is steak."
>>
>> On  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Karim Brohi <karimbrohi at gmail.com>  
wrote:
>>
>> > DavidOf course.  I'm happy for  trauma.org to coordinate this, although
>> > it'll
>>  > be a little difficult for me to set up from here.  If you or someone  
close
>> > to John can set this up we can make donations available  through the
>> > website.
>> >  Otherwise I could  set up a Paypal account for people to donate  
>> to and  then
>> > forward proceeds to his family or an appropriate  intermediary.
>> > I know John was close to many people on this  list, in the US and
>> > internationally, and we'll do everything  we can to help his family.
>> > Karim
>> >
>>  > 2008/12/28 <nappio at aol.com>
>> >
>> > >  Karim, although there may be countless individuals throughout the  
year
>> > that
>> > > may benefit from good will, I  feel during this special season  
>> many on the
>>  > > trauma.org site would like very much to show their support to the  
Pryor
>> > > family thru a scholarship donation for his  children. Possibly directly
>> > into
>> > > a 529  savings plan.  Is that something the list administration  could
>> > > consider spearheading or any colleagues' of his  who are on the  
>> list?David
>> > > Napoliello  md facs
>> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless  BlackBerry
>> > >
>> > > -----Original  Message-----
>> > > From: KMATTOX at aol.com
>> >  >
>> > > Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:04:47
>> >  > To: <ccm-l at ccm-l.org>; <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>>  > > Cc: <SURGINET at listserv.utoronto.ca>
>> > >  Subject: John Pryor, M.D.
>> > >
>> >  >
>> > > To the many families, friends, and colleagues of  Dr. John Pryor.
>> > >
>> > > First, John died  doing what he and all on these lists are genetically
>> > >  programmed to do - care for their fellow men and women, give them  a
>> > chance
>> > > at
>> > >  survival and recovery and to return them as a functional member of
>>  > >  society.
>> > > John trained in his chosen  profession to be the  medical adventurer 
that
>> >  is
>> > > an
>> > > understandable underlying  and unquenchable force  which is present in
>> >  each
>> > > of
>> > > us.    Going to  the heart of danger,  both in the large inner city
>> >  hospital
>> > > as
>> > > well as in a war in  bay off lands, we  see the toughest of the  
>> tough;  the
>> > > task
>> > > which others might  retreat or shirk  from, John found his peace while
>> > >  attempting to piece together the most complex  of cases.
>> >  >
>> > > Second, John understood the illogic of his chosen  field of trauma
>> >  surgery.
>> > > He  understood that the streets of Philadelphia were just as    
>> dangerous as
>> > > the
>> > >  venues of hostility in a country at war.   He  understood that  he was
>> > > predestined to be in the heat of the battle,  whether it  be 
Philadelphia
>> > or
>> > >  Mosal.
>> > >  It was his fate to patch  up the  secondary effects of man's 
inhumanity
>> > to
>> >  > man.    Yes, in  an ideal world preventive strategies  would 
completely
>> > > eliminate the area of  surgical  skill where John was most skilled and
>> > > comfortable,  the
>> > > need for John  Pryor's in the future will never  be eliminated.   
>>   Now and
>> >  > for
>> > >  the long foreseeable future, the acute  care trauma critical  
>> care surgeon
>> > >  will at  the pinnacle of physicians in demand and needed in  
communities
>> > > around
>> > > the   world, especially the United States.
>> > >
>> >  > Third, how so very sad to loose John Pryor during this special time  
of
>> > the
>> > > year.    For all of  the major faiths with which we in the United  
States
>> >  > are
>> > > most familiar, their festive and holy times are  now:   Christianity,
>> > > Judaism,
>> >  > Islam, Quanza.    Yes, even Ramadan is  now.
>>  > >
>> > > Some on these list knew John Pryor very well  and their loss is most
>> > >  severe.
>> >  >  Our hearts, prayers, support, and understanding are extended   to 
them.
>> > > Some knew John peripherally or were just  learning of his  developing
>> > career
>> > >  trajectory.   Still others only suffer as they know  John  represents 
the
>> > > kind of
>> > > surgical  spirit that all surgeons possess.   Yes, John Pryor has  the
>> > trauma
>> > > surgeon's  genome.   There is no need  for question or  discussion.   
We
>> > each
>> > > in  our
>> > > own way know exactly why  John was in  Iraq.   On another day, the loss
>> > >  could
>> > > have been any one  of us.
>> >  >
>> > > John:  as a soldier, we respect and salute  you.
>> > >          as a teacher,  we  seek to emulate you.
>> > >         as a visionary, we  support you.
>> > >   as a surgeon we  recognize your master  skills
>> > >          as a human,  we  applaud and memorialize your unique and 
lasting
>> > >  contributions.
>> > >
>> > > We each will  rededicate our genetically predetermined professionalism 
to
>> >  be
>> > > built on the foundations of your work.
>>  > >
>> > > Kenneth L. Mattox, MD
>> > >  Houston
>> > >
>> > >
>> >  >
>> > >
>> > >
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>>  Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:01:54 +0100
>> From: Johan Malmgren  <johan.malmgren at vgregion.se>
>> Subject: Ang: John Pryor,  M.D.
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>> Subject: new text - Essentials of Terror  Medicine
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