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No, it is not acceptable to yell at your team. Here in OZ we call that  
'bullying'. Elsewhere it is likely called abuse...

Gordon

Quoting Angela <angie504 at hotmail.com>:

>
> I work with a pariticular trauma surgeon and he loses his temper  
> easily and resorts to yelling and screaming at all staff until hiis  
> orders are done and things go his way overall .  My trauma team are  
> no amateurs and have a good flow when it' s gets busy.  Your walking  
> on egg shells around him because no one  knows what will upset him.   
> And he never says ," sorry for acting out of line." Thouhghts?
>
> JMH hospital , MIami
>
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>    1. Re: trauma-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 28 (luisfr28 at gmail.com)
>>    2. Ang: John Pryor, M.D. (Johan Malmgren)
>>    3. new text - Essentials of Terror Medicine (Jeffrey Hammond)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:47:39 +0000
>> From: luisfr28 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: trauma-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 28
>> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
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>> Sadness and violence reflects the enviroment of conflicts like irak  
>> does, but Dr Pryor had vissions and reflections about the civilian  
>> violence and war, his washington post article shows it, like a  
>> surgeon , like a man, from Venezuela ,i present my repect and  
>> really sorry your loss..
>> Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:00:10
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>> Subject: trauma-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 28
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>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>    1. Re: John Pryor MD (listasmsd)
>>    2. Re: John Pryor MD (Sohail Muzammil)
>>    3. Re: John Pryor, M.D. (nappio at aol.com)
>>    4. Re: John Pryor, M.D. (Karim Brohi)
>>    5. Re: John Pryor, M.D. (Forrest Robleto)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:27:10 -0400
>> From: "listasmsd" <listasmsd at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: John Pryor MD
>> To: "Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> Message-ID: <7472F9B54BAA456096E8F96F0D453419 at compaq>
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>> Meaning what a pity? or very sorry? or it hurts?
>> cordially
>> Manuel Sotelo
>> Caracas D.C.
>>
>>
>> Que lastima!!!
>>
>> Charlene
>> in NC.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:12 PM, <moore677 at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >From Pat Reilly at Penn............
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Patrick M. Reilly <reillyp at uphs.upenn.edu>
>> > To: Forrest O. Moore <moore677 at aol.com>
>> > Sent: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 9:43 am
>> > Subject: EAST Mail: John Pryor MD
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I've tried to call many of the Penn Trauma family personally over the last
>> > several hours.  I apologize if I have not gotten through to you.  You're
>> > welcome
>> > to give me call if you would like.
>> >
>> > Sorry to need to forward this email...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > It is with profound sadness and an overwhelming sense of loss that we send
>> > this
>> > communication. Last evening we were notified that Major John Pryor was
>> > killed by
>> > enemy fire in Iraq. John was serving his second tour as a combat surgeon
>> > with
>> > the United States Army. He deployed on December 6th and had been on
>> > location
>> > with a forward surgical team.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > John came to the University of Pennsylvania in 1999 after completing his
>> > surgical training at the State University of New York in Buffalo. After
>> > his
>> > Fellowship in trauma surgery and critical care he joined the faculty of
>> > the
>> > Department of Surgery and currently was serving as the Trauma Program
>> > Director
>> > for the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "JP" was a magical man, with boundless energy and goodness. He as was a
>> > devoted
>> > son, husband, father, colleague and friend. He was an outstanding
>> > physician,
>> > gifted surgeon, teacher and mentor. At his core were many great values but
>> > his
>> > passion for service to others and gave back something to each and everyone
>> > of
>> > us, everyday. His favorite quote, by Albert Schweitzer, hangs in his
>> > office
>> > and
>> > it captures the essence of John Pryor.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >            ".. Seek always to do some good, somewhere. Every man has to
>> > seek in
>> > his own way to realize his true worth. You must give some time to your
>> > fellow
>> > man. Even if it's a little thing, do something for those who need help,
>> > something for which you get no pay but the privilege of doing it. For
>> > remember,
>> > you don't lie in a world all your own. Your brothers are here, too."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  John's sudden death while serving as a physician on the battlefield, is a
>> > very
>> > personal loss for the many of us who have worked side by side with him in
>> > our
>> > Emergency Department,  OR's and ICU's, and all the more stark coming
>> > unexpectedly in this h
>> > oliday season. All of us have lost one of our "brothers".
>> > Our thoughts are with his wife Carmella Calvo, their three children and
>> > all
>> > the
>> > family.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > We will pass on further information about services and ways in which we
>> > can
>> > help
>> > the Pryor family as they become available.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > C. William Schwab MD
>> >
>> > Chief, Division of Trauma and Critical Care
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > James Mullen MD
>> >
>> > Interim Chair, Department of Surgery
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>> Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. "
>> ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:12:24 +0500
>> From: "Sohail Muzammil" <sohailmuzammil at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: John Pryor MD
>> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Dear Dr Mattox,
>>
>> A very touching eulogy for a fallen comrade. My prayers go out to all lives
>> so needlessly lost to this; indeed to all conflicts. It is a sad reflection
>> on the state of humanity that arguments still need to be settled with sharp
>> instruments and explosives. It remains our onerous duty to patch up as best
>> we can the results of man's inhumanity to man; and perhaps raise a voice
>> against this insanity (as you Dr. Mattox often do).
>>
>> Regards
>> S Muzammil, FRCS
>>
>> PS: Eid Al Adha (and the Hajj) passed recently. Ramadan was about a couple
>> of months ago.
>> .....................
>> ....Third, how so very sad to loose John Pryor during this special time of
>> the
>> year.    For all of the major faiths with which we in the United  States are
>> most familiar, their festive and holy times are now:   Christianity,
>> Judaism,
>> Islam, Quanza.    Yes, even Ramadan is  now......
>>
>> ....We each will rededicate our genetically predetermined professionalism to
>> be
>> built on the foundations of your work.
>>
>> Kenneth L. Mattox, MD
>> Houston
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:19:23 +0000
>> From: nappio at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: John Pryor, M.D.
>> To: "Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> Message-ID:
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>>
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>>
>> Karim, although there may be countless individuals throughout the  
>> year that may benefit from good will, I feel during this special  
>> season many on the trauma.org site would like very much to show  
>> their support to the Pryor family thru a scholarship donation for  
>> his children. Possibly directly into a 529 savings plan.  Is that  
>> something the list administration could consider spearheading or  
>> any colleagues' of his who are on the list?David Napoliello md facs
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: KMATTOX at aol.com
>>
>> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:04:47
>> To: <ccm-l at ccm-l.org>; <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> Cc: <SURGINET at listserv.utoronto.ca>
>> Subject: John Pryor, M.D.
>>
>>
>> To the many families, friends, and colleagues of Dr. John Pryor.
>>
>> First, John died doing what he and all on these lists are genetically
>> programmed to do - care for their fellow men and women, give them a  
>> chance at
>> survival and recovery and to return them as a functional member of  society.
>> John trained in his chosen profession to be the  medical adventurer  
>> that is an
>> understandable underlying and unquenchable force  which is present  
>> in each of
>> us.    Going to the heart of danger,  both in the large inner city  
>> hospital as
>> well as in a war in bay off lands, we  see the toughest of the  
>> tough; the task
>> which others might retreat or shirk  from, John found his peace while
>> attempting to piece together the most complex  of cases.
>>
>> Second, John understood the illogic of his chosen field of trauma  surgery.
>> He understood that the streets of Philadelphia were just as   
>> dangerous as the
>> venues of hostility in a country at war.   He  understood that he was
>> predestined to be in the heat of the battle, whether it  be  
>> Philadelphia or Mosal.
>>   It was his fate to patch  up the secondary effects of man's inhumanity to
>> man.    Yes, in  an ideal world preventive strategies would completely
>> eliminate the area of  surgical skill where John was most skilled  
>> and comfortable, the
>> need for John  Pryor's in the future will never be eliminated.     
>> Now and for
>>  the long foreseeable future, the acute care trauma critical care surgeon
>> will at  the pinnacle of physicians in demand and needed in  
>> communities around
>> the  world, especially the United States.
>>
>> Third, how so very sad to loose John Pryor during this special time of the
>> year.    For all of the major faiths with which we in the United  States are
>> most familiar, their festive and holy times are now:    
>> Christianity, Judaism,
>> Islam, Quanza.    Yes, even Ramadan is  now.
>>
>> Some on these list knew John Pryor very well and their loss is most  severe.
>>  Our hearts, prayers, support, and understanding are extended  to them.
>> Some knew John peripherally or were just learning of his  developing career
>> trajectory.   Still others only suffer as they know  John  
>> represents the kind of
>> surgical spirit that all surgeons possess.   Yes, John Pryor has the trauma
>> surgeon's genome.   There is no need  for question or discussion.    
>> We each in our
>> own way know exactly why  John was in Iraq.   On another day, the loss could
>> have been any one  of us.
>>
>> John:  as a soldier, we respect and salute you.
>>           as a teacher, we  seek to emulate you.
>>           as a visionary, we  support you.
>>           as a surgeon we  recognize your master skills
>>           as a human, we  applaud and memorialize your unique and lasting
>> contributions.
>>
>> We each will rededicate our genetically predetermined professionalism to be
>> built on the foundations of your work.
>>
>> Kenneth L. Mattox, MD
>> Houston
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:52:07 +0000
>> From: "Karim Brohi" <karimbrohi at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: John Pryor, M.D.
>> To: "Trauma &amp, Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<b8b351510812281252n3e7637eeucd21a06083a3741e at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> DavidOf course.  I'm happy for trauma.org to coordinate this, although it'll
>> be a little difficult for me to set up from here.  If you or someone close
>> to John can set this up we can make donations available through the website.
>>  Otherwise I could set up a Paypal account for people to donate to and then
>> forward proceeds to his family or an appropriate intermediary.
>> I know John was close to many people on this list, in the US and
>> internationally, and we'll do everything we can to help his family.
>> Karim
>>
>> 2008/12/28 <nappio at aol.com>
>>
>> > Karim, although there may be countless individuals throughout the  
>> year that
>> > may benefit from good will, I feel during this special season many on the
>> > trauma.org site would like very much to show their support to the Pryor
>> > family thru a scholarship donation for his children. Possibly  
>> directly into
>> > a 529 savings plan.  Is that something the list administration could
>> > consider spearheading or any colleagues' of his who are on the list?David
>> > Napoliello md facs
>> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: KMATTOX at aol.com
>> >
>> > Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:04:47
>> > To: <ccm-l at ccm-l.org>; <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> > Cc: <SURGINET at listserv.utoronto.ca>
>> > Subject: John Pryor, M.D.
>> >
>> >
>> > To the many families, friends, and colleagues of Dr. John Pryor.
>> >
>> > First, John died doing what he and all on these lists are genetically
>> > programmed to do - care for their fellow men and women, give them a chance
>> > at
>> > survival and recovery and to return them as a functional member of
>> >  society.
>> > John trained in his chosen profession to be the  medical  
>> adventurer that is
>> > an
>> > understandable underlying and unquenchable force  which is present in each
>> > of
>> > us.    Going to the heart of danger,  both in the large inner  
>> city hospital
>> > as
>> > well as in a war in bay off lands, we  see the toughest of the tough; the
>> > task
>> > which others might retreat or shirk  from, John found his peace while
>> > attempting to piece together the most complex  of cases.
>> >
>> > Second, John understood the illogic of his chosen field of trauma  
>>  surgery.
>> > He understood that the streets of Philadelphia were just as  dangerous as
>> > the
>> > venues of hostility in a country at war.   He  understood that he was
>> > predestined to be in the heat of the battle, whether it  be  
>> Philadelphia or
>> > Mosal.
>> >  It was his fate to patch  up the secondary effects of man's inhumanity to
>> > man.    Yes, in  an ideal world preventive strategies would completely
>> > eliminate the area of  surgical skill where John was most skilled and
>> > comfortable, the
>> > need for John  Pryor's in the future will never be eliminated.    Now and
>> > for
>> >  the long foreseeable future, the acute care trauma critical care surgeon
>> > will at  the pinnacle of physicians in demand and needed in communities
>> > around
>> > the  world, especially the United States.
>> >
>> > Third, how so very sad to loose John Pryor during this special time of the
>> > year.    For all of the major faiths with which we in the United  States
>> > are
>> > most familiar, their festive and holy times are now:   Christianity,
>> > Judaism,
>> > Islam, Quanza.    Yes, even Ramadan is  now.
>> >
>> > Some on these list knew John Pryor very well and their loss is most
>> >  severe.
>> >  Our hearts, prayers, support, and understanding are extended  to them.
>> > Some knew John peripherally or were just learning of his   
>> developing career
>> > trajectory.   Still others only suffer as they know  John represents the
>> > kind of
>> > surgical spirit that all surgeons possess.   Yes, John Pryor has  
>> the trauma
>> > surgeon's genome.   There is no need  for question or discussion.  
>>   We each
>> > in our
>> > own way know exactly why  John was in Iraq.   On another day, the loss
>> > could
>> > have been any one  of us.
>> >
>> > John:  as a soldier, we respect and salute you.
>> >          as a teacher, we  seek to emulate you.
>> >          as a visionary, we  support you.
>> >          as a surgeon we  recognize your master skills
>> >          as a human, we  applaud and memorialize your unique and lasting
>> > contributions.
>> >
>> > We each will rededicate our genetically predetermined  
>> professionalism to be
>> > built on the foundations of your work.
>> >
>> > Kenneth L. Mattox, MD
>> > Houston
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:19:37 -0500
>> From: "Forrest Robleto" <farcpr at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: John Pryor, M.D.
>> To: "Trauma &amp, Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<2277979f0812281519o5df09733j10ea26715d89d88d at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> I'm not too far away,  I check tomorrow to see what it would take to set
>> this up.
>>
>>
>> V/R
>>
>> Forrest Robleto
>> R House Health & Safety
>> www.RHouseTraining.com
>> FRobleto at RhouseTraining.com
>> 609-792-9047
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Fran Lebowitz  - "My favorite animal is steak."
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Karim Brohi <karimbrohi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > DavidOf course.  I'm happy for trauma.org to coordinate this, although
>> > it'll
>> > be a little difficult for me to set up from here.  If you or someone close
>> > to John can set this up we can make donations available through the
>> > website.
>> >  Otherwise I could set up a Paypal account for people to donate  
>> to and then
>> > forward proceeds to his family or an appropriate intermediary.
>> > I know John was close to many people on this list, in the US and
>> > internationally, and we'll do everything we can to help his family.
>> > Karim
>> >
>> > 2008/12/28 <nappio at aol.com>
>> >
>> > > Karim, although there may be countless individuals throughout the year
>> > that
>> > > may benefit from good will, I feel during this special season  
>> many on the
>> > > trauma.org site would like very much to show their support to the Pryor
>> > > family thru a scholarship donation for his children. Possibly directly
>> > into
>> > > a 529 savings plan.  Is that something the list administration could
>> > > consider spearheading or any colleagues' of his who are on the  
>> list?David
>> > > Napoliello md facs
>> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: KMATTOX at aol.com
>> > >
>> > > Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:04:47
>> > > To: <ccm-l at ccm-l.org>; <trauma-list at trauma.org>
>> > > Cc: <SURGINET at listserv.utoronto.ca>
>> > > Subject: John Pryor, M.D.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > To the many families, friends, and colleagues of Dr. John Pryor.
>> > >
>> > > First, John died doing what he and all on these lists are genetically
>> > > programmed to do - care for their fellow men and women, give them a
>> > chance
>> > > at
>> > > survival and recovery and to return them as a functional member of
>> > >  society.
>> > > John trained in his chosen profession to be the  medical adventurer that
>> > is
>> > > an
>> > > understandable underlying and unquenchable force  which is present in
>> > each
>> > > of
>> > > us.    Going to the heart of danger,  both in the large inner city
>> > hospital
>> > > as
>> > > well as in a war in bay off lands, we  see the toughest of the  
>> tough; the
>> > > task
>> > > which others might retreat or shirk  from, John found his peace while
>> > > attempting to piece together the most complex  of cases.
>> > >
>> > > Second, John understood the illogic of his chosen field of trauma
>> >  surgery.
>> > > He understood that the streets of Philadelphia were just as   
>> dangerous as
>> > > the
>> > > venues of hostility in a country at war.   He  understood that he was
>> > > predestined to be in the heat of the battle, whether it  be Philadelphia
>> > or
>> > > Mosal.
>> > >  It was his fate to patch  up the secondary effects of man's inhumanity
>> > to
>> > > man.    Yes, in  an ideal world preventive strategies would completely
>> > > eliminate the area of  surgical skill where John was most skilled and
>> > > comfortable, the
>> > > need for John  Pryor's in the future will never be eliminated.   
>>   Now and
>> > > for
>> > >  the long foreseeable future, the acute care trauma critical  
>> care surgeon
>> > > will at  the pinnacle of physicians in demand and needed in communities
>> > > around
>> > > the  world, especially the United States.
>> > >
>> > > Third, how so very sad to loose John Pryor during this special time of
>> > the
>> > > year.    For all of the major faiths with which we in the United  States
>> > > are
>> > > most familiar, their festive and holy times are now:   Christianity,
>> > > Judaism,
>> > > Islam, Quanza.    Yes, even Ramadan is  now.
>> > >
>> > > Some on these list knew John Pryor very well and their loss is most
>> > >  severe.
>> > >  Our hearts, prayers, support, and understanding are extended  to them.
>> > > Some knew John peripherally or were just learning of his  developing
>> > career
>> > > trajectory.   Still others only suffer as they know  John represents the
>> > > kind of
>> > > surgical spirit that all surgeons possess.   Yes, John Pryor has the
>> > trauma
>> > > surgeon's genome.   There is no need  for question or discussion.   We
>> > each
>> > > in our
>> > > own way know exactly why  John was in Iraq.   On another day, the loss
>> > > could
>> > > have been any one  of us.
>> > >
>> > > John:  as a soldier, we respect and salute you.
>> > >          as a teacher, we  seek to emulate you.
>> > >          as a visionary, we  support you.
>> > >          as a surgeon we  recognize your master skills
>> > >          as a human, we  applaud and memorialize your unique and lasting
>> > > contributions.
>> > >
>> > > We each will rededicate our genetically predetermined professionalism to
>> > be
>> > > built on the foundations of your work.
>> > >
>> > > Kenneth L. Mattox, MD
>> > > Houston
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail,
>> > > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now.
>> > > (
>> > >
>> >  
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