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Dorothy Dean dcdeanrn at yahoo.comTue Dec 2 18:25:59 GMT 2008
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Dear Dr. Mattox, This is the sort of thing that keeps me reading the Trauma Listserve, despite my practicing ED nursing in beautiful but boring Lake Tahoe. We see about 2 penetrating traumas per year. I used to work with you as a trauma nurse at Ben Taub, which was probably the most taxing, intriguing, and satisfying job of my career. Anyway, your succinct and knowledgeable observations are pure gold. Keep 'em coming! Most Sincerely, Dorothy Dean, RN --- On Tue, 12/2/08, KMATTOX at aol.com <KMATTOX at aol.com> wrote: From: KMATTOX at aol.com <KMATTOX at aol.com> Subject: SW to heart EMOTIONS and FACTS To: trauma-list at trauma.org Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:31 AM Penetrating wounds to the heart do still KILL people, most prior to ever seeing an EMT, emergency physician, or surgeon. Some patients present to a facility with clear signs of a hemopericardium and cardiac constriction: Narrowed pulse pressure, decreased systolic BP, distended neck veins, etc. These individuals need a THORACOTOMY with or without a confirmatory study. Currently the FAST is a good study, when positive. If the FAST is negative, then a CT or echocardiogram might be helpful. For these individuals it is foolish to make an abdominal incision (either in the ER or in the OR) as there is a heart injury that needs fixing from the chest. If you want to do a mediansternotomy or a left anterolateral thoracotomy, that is your preference. In this case, I ask the patient to Valsalva and if the pulse goes away, they have an OR thoracotomy in just a few minutes later as for me that is a positive sign enough. There are also other signs, apprehension, fecal incontinent, etc. Some patients have a wound somewhere in the methodical box (fine, that is OK, I have never used that term, but you can if you wish), and who present "stable". If this patient has any sign of a hemopericardium or tamponade, then they fall under the paragraph above. If they have a wide pulse pressure, they virtually never have an cardiac injury. If the FAST is negative and you want to do a CT of the chest or an echocardiogram, OK, but most of the time it is totally negative. I really see no reason to do negative tests in patients who have totally negative physical findings and negative history, etc. I really see no reason to do a sub xyphoid pericardiotomy in a patient with a totally negative FAST, negative physical exam, and a VOMIT on the CT scan with a hint of a suggestion of a wisp of fluid in the pericardium, with the FAST showing full contractions and relaxations, and NO narrowing of the pulse pressure. The subxyphoid pericardiotomy will always in such a patient yield no meaningful results. The subxyphoid pericardiotomy was developed prior to the widespread availability of the FAST and CT of the chest. It is no longer needed as a diagnostic modality. AND it was never suggested as a therapeutic modality. Just for the record. I have personally seen and managed as many or more cardiac injuries than most persons on this list, with the exception of about 6 people and you know who you are. I have seen none of those 6 persons screaming for subxyphoid pericardiotomy or any other fancy tests. It may be a matter of experience. This is not rocket science. It is relatively straight forward. LOOK AT THE PATIENT. Feel their pulse. Look at their neck veins. Look at the pulse pressure, Feel the leg and pedal pulse. Talk to the patient, Do a FAST or other echocardiogram. Do a CT if you really need it. If you order an echo or CT - LOOK AT THE TEST YOURSELF, do not just look at the report. Do not make a simple job hard. k **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002) -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/
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