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Rob Ojala Rob.Ojala at cdhb.govt.nzMon Dec 1 22:51:36 GMT 2008
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In that case - sorry to flog a dead horse! Careful anonymity sounds like a sensible solution -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Errington Thompson Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 11:23 a.m. To: 'Trauma & Critical Care mailing list' Subject: RE: SW to heart We have talked about this issue many times in the past. We haven't come to any solution except not to mention names. Remove all patient identifiers. Errington C. Thompson, MD Trauma/Surgical Critical Care Talk Show Host - WPEK www.whereistheoutrage.net Asheville, NC -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Rob Ojala Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:36 PM To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list Subject: RE: SW to heart Question from the antipodes... I am aware of the apparent fraught medico-legal milieu in which the North Americans unenviously find themselves. Given this, should list members not be a little pensive about airing their management options on a contentious case in a publically accessible forum? - Or is this not really a risk in reality? Rob Ojala New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Errington Thompson Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 12:57 a.m. To: Trauma International emailing list Subject: SW to heart Question - I had a gentleman who tried to end it all the other night. He had a SW (slash) to the neck and a single SW inside the cardiac box. The patient was hemodynamically stable. CXR revealed a left effusion. I did a FAST in the ER then I CT of the chest with contrast. My FAST was negative for pericardial fluid. The CT was read as a small amount of fluid at the apex of the heart. I took the patient to the OR and explored the neck wound. Left chest tube 500cc out then nothing. Who would have explored this patient's chest? Next morning the patient's heart rate was 100- 110. BP 120/70. Partner takes the patient to the OR for a pericardial window. It is positive. Cardiac surgery finds a non-bleeding laceration to the left ventricle. Who would have taken this patient to the OR? Thoughts? Errington C. Thompson, MD, FACS, FCCM Trauma/Surgical Critical Care Talk Show Host - WPEK 880 AM Asheville, NC -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ ************************************************************************ **** ********************** Check out our web site: http://www.cdhb.govt.nz This email and attachments have been scanned for content and viruses and is believed to be clean This email or attachments may contain confidential or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). Any use, redistribution, disclosure, or reproduction of this message, except as intended, is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and remove all copies of the message, including any attachments. Any views or opinions expressed in this email (unless otherwise stated) may not represent those of Canterbury District Health Board ************************************************************************ **** ********************** -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ ************************************************************************************************** Check out our web site: http://www.cdhb.govt.nz This email and attachments have been scanned for content and viruses and is believed to be clean This email or attachments may contain confidential or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). Any use, redistribution, disclosure, or reproduction of this message, except as intended, is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and remove all copies of the message, including any attachments. Any views or opinions expressed in this email (unless otherwise stated) may not represent those of Canterbury District Health Board **************************************************************************************************
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