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Dr Ross Hofmeyr wildmedic at gmail.comFri Apr 18 12:59:14 BST 2008
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I've heard the term used, when I was searching for an answer with a patient with a similar presentation. The patient was in the 'High Care' unit of the hospital where I previously used to work - we didn't have an ICU, but due to bed pressures in the tertiary hospitals, often managed patients with ICU-grade acuity in the HCU. Night cover for the HCU from 2300 to 0700 was provided by the on-call intern or MO for medicine (depending on which team was on call), with support from the on-call anaesthetist where necessary. I was in the hot seat, and called in the small hours to see a patient with sudden deterioration. On arrival I found it was a victim of 'community justice' who had been beaten extensively with a sjambok (traditional whip, pronounced SHUM-bock) over most of his body. The sjambok can leave a nasty open wound, and has been mentioned before on this list, can cause rhabdomyolysis and 'crush' syndrome. He was in HCU to maintain a heftily positive fluid balance and monitor urine output and quality, when he suddenly (literally from one minute to the next) developed tachycardia, tachypnoea and rigors. When I arrived he was shaking vigorously from head to toe, diaphoretic and distressed, but fully conscious. At the time he was apyrexic. I feared a PE, but there were no suggestive findings. The episode lasted a few minutes and then subsided. Amongst other things, I drew a blood gas (which was reasonably normal, although I don't recall the values) and a culture. A careful examination showed that some of the sjambok wounds (which had been bandaged on admission) had become infected, and there was some cellulitis in one area. I started AB's. With the patient stabilised, I took no further action until the morning when I described the incident to the HCU physician, who was convinced that what we witnessed was a transient bacteraemia, describing it as a 'septic storm' caused by seeding from one of the wounds into the bloodstream. When the blood culture results arrived they were positive for S. aureus. Usually, S. aureus on a culture makes me suspicious of the technique, but as I did this one myself in my usual pedantic fashion, I can only conclude the physician was correct. The patient went on to recover well, although I have always remembered the case, and those shakes. R. Dr Ross Hofmeyr Expedition Leader & Doctor South African National Antarctic Expedition > -----Original Message----- > From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list- > bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Ronald Gross > Sent: 18 April 2008 11:27 AM > To: Critical Care mailing list Trauma & > Subject: Re: Septic Storm > > Charlene, > > Septic storm sounds like a pretty catchy phrase (I kinda wish I thought of > it!), but this sounds like the garden variety bacteremia to me......septic > shock, on the other hand, is a whole other story, and I know that you know > what that is. > > Ron > > >>> "Charlene M Morris" <cvmmorris at gmail.com> 4/18/2008 7:14 AM >>> > This is a cross post from a PA colleague. if anyone has thoughts or > explanation for the term "septic storm", please advise! > > Charlene Morris, PA-C > > I have a friend/patient/volunteer EMT who is in the hospital after being > run > over by a 30,000# tractor. He suffered a crushed pelvis. He has been > fighting sepsis for some time. night before last he had a couple of > episodes of pretty severe shaking. The nurse used the term "septic storm" > to his wife to describe these spells. I could not find any reference to > thistgerm, either written or internet, nor had my SP ever heard the term. > the only thing I can conjure up is either the bacteria is releasing waves > of > toxin or the antibiotics are causing waves of bacterial cell lysis which > is > provoking the episodes. He did grown out VRE so they have had to change > antibiotics. last night he went in to surgery and had a drain placed in > his > perineal wound. It was expected to take 1 hour for the surgery and ended > up > taking 3 because they found, drained, cultured and cleaned out an abscess > pocket, which I figure should help his recovery process. I realize he is > not out of the woods by any stretch, but wondered if anyone has heard the > term "septic storm". this has hit our small group of 10 volunteer EMTs > pretty hard as he and his wife are both EMTs. His wife is an > intermediate, > was first on the scene and managed to hold herself together enough that > she > was able to start the two large bore IVs he needed and which probably > enabled him to make it through the chopper flight alive. in any case if > anyone has heard the term septic shock, I would appreciate hearing what > you > understand it means. 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