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Mon Apr 14 14:36:43 BST 2008

Is this the kit in which the cric tube has no balloon.
 If it is, then at least for the actual airway I would
either use a size 6 ET tube or tracheostomy tube.  I
have faced this situation once, where I used the
supplied cric tube and although I could ventilate, the
patient stayed hypoxic because of the air leak. 

Sanjay

--- Ivan Hronek <ivanhronek at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Can people share their experiences with
> cricothyrotomies with the Airstat, Quicktrach,
> Melker Seldinger technique etc..I found (in the one
> that I did) one has no time in a
> failure-to-intubate/failure-to-ventilate situation
> in an anoxic patient to play with the Seldinger
> tech(Melker kit) and I am thinking the one-move
> access that the "catheter-over-needle" techniques
> allow is to be used.
>  
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> FYI . . . Another product.  I have seen this work.
> Bought one for all of my trauma and critical care
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> http://airstat.org/
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> What striked me was how similar these principles
> still are...
> this is a picture of the currently available cric
> kit...
>
http://www.statkit.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product&itemnum=1195
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> 
> Rusch QuickTrach Emergency Cricothyrotomy - 4.0mm 
> currently used device 
> 
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>
http://www.adair.at/eng/museum/equipment/surgery/ueckermannobject01.htm
> Ueckermann Cricothyrotomy Trocar (Manufacturer
> Unknown, Object Number 1)
> 
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> This section is contributed by Ernst Zadrobilek, MD,
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> Last updated: April 28, 2002.
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> Ueckermann cricothyrotomy trocar with metal
> cricothyrotomy tube (see Figures 1 to 4) from the
> Private Collection of Jean-Bernard Cazalaa (Paris,
> France). The manufacturer of this cricothyrotomy
> trocar is unknown.
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> Figure 1: Ueckermann cricothyrotomy trocar with
> metal cricothyrotomy tube. Reproduced by courtesy of
> the Private Collection of Jean-Bernard Cazalaa
> (Paris, France).
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> Figure 2: Ueckermann cricothyrotomy trocar with
> metal cricothyrotomy tube. Reproduced by courtesy of
> the Private Collection of Jean-Bernard Cazalaa
> (Paris, France).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Figure 3: Ueckermann cricothyrotomy trocar with
> metal cricothyrotomy tube. Reproduced by courtesy of
> the Private Collection of Jean-Bernard Cazalaa
> (Paris, France).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Figure 4: Ueckermann cricothyrotomy trocar with
> metal cricothyrotomy tube. Reproduced by courtesy of
> the Private Collection of Jean-Bernard Cazalaa
> (Paris, France).
> 
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