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GSW TO RIGHT CHEST. CT of airway
SJASMD at aol.com SJASMD at aol.comSat Sep 1 04:18:35 BST 2007
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The patient remained normotensive with continued hemorrhage from the chest tube. As our CT scanner is next door to the trauma room, he was scanned througho the neck and chest with intravenous contrast media. I did not agree with strategy. I thoughot that continued bleeding from a transmediastinal bullet wound warranted angiography as the next step. My reasoning is that vascular injury is the most immediately life threatening and should be therefore the first diagnosis made or excluded. Beside an angio suite is an excellent location for esophagography. The rooms are always bigger, and better prepared for problems than the GI Radiology suite located in the recesses of the department. In ours we can barely get 2-3 people, let alone a crash cart, ventilator etc. I must admit I am surprised that the consensus of the list so far has been to look for aerodigestive injury. The logic escapes me but i am interested to hear the rationale that led so many to suggest this first. Was it gut? was it trajectory? Was it the appearance on the chest film? At any rate a CT was done. I have tried to piece together a number of images of that study so that the group can comment on it. I will show the airway images on this post and the vascular images on the next let me know whether this technique of composite imaging is useful to the group discussion. sal I have beenIn a message dated 8/31/2007 9:53:21 P.M. W. Europe Daylight Time, mgreeds at reeds.uk.com writes: Having now read others comments on this case (and Sal's further info and rpt CXR), my further observations are:- 1. Obvious surgical emphysema on left side of rpt CXR (I cannot see this on the previous CXR - may be due to the poor quality of images on my mobile) I presume this to be evolving/rapidly developing. Is this a correct assumption?; 2. Bullet on left side - makes me question tracheal/bronchial/oesophageal/cardiac/pulmonary/aortic injury. Assuming patient is haemodynamically stable, I would first evaluate for an oesophagheal and tracheal injury and proceed from there; 3. Surgical emphysema would lead me to question a broncho-pleural fistula - did the patient show any sign of this?; 4. Regarding the persistent haemothorax - is the right ICD still draining? If so, what is the content/output? Is it draining adequately or does it need replacing/resiting? What are the patient's current observations? I would like to know this before I would decide what to do next. For now I shall wait and observe. I would not wish to proceed to thoracotomy/sternotomy at this point (based solely on the current information.) I would maintain that to perform either procedure merely to retrieve the bullet is inappropriate and not in the patient's best interests (unless there are good CLINICAL reasons for doing so.) As a side issue, what are the list's views on sternotomy -v- thoracotomy and the indications for each? If surgery is required, which would people perform and why? I shall read with interest further comments from the list. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1619525_composite-aerodiges.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 28101 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://list.mistral.net/pipermail/trauma-list/attachments/20070831/e2adfdc7/1619525_composite-aerodiges.jpg
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