Va Tech disaster & recommendations

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IF the spirit was for improvement, with information after the fact, then
that would have been the tenor. INSTEAD the report said-- Va tech messed up.


Woulda/shouldas are useless in today's climate. Indeed, things have and will
change. Just don't tell people they did it wrong after the tragic result. It
is akin to PETA telling Steve Irwin's family he was a stupid dolt the day
after his death. Or that September 11th could have been prevented.

I read the actual report and recommend all do the same.

I also recommend *Bleeding Blue And
Gray*<http://product.half.ebay.com/Bleeding-Blue-And-Gray_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ30531002>
: by Ira M. Rutkow M.D. for reviewing historical medical evolution and the
politics involved.

C M Morris


On 8/31/07, Moore, Rick <Rick.Moore at triadhospitals.com> wrote:
>
> As I stated in my reply to Pret, my comment was related to the CNN
> version of the report, not the actual after action report. I understand
> the purpose of after action reports and have participated in several
> myself. It is the public release and subsequent media frenzy and
> negative spin that I object to. Thanks for sending out the report, I
> have saved the link and plan on including it in my weekend reading.
> Rick Moore
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org ] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hammond
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:06 PM
> To: Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list
> Subject: RE: Va Tech disaster recommendations-reply
>
>
>
> I think the responses by Rick Moore and Charlene Morris miss the point
> of an after action review. It is supposed to be critical. Fair, but
> critical.
>
> Planning is an iterative process and unless you are perfect there is
> always something to learn and improve upon. Frankly, if we do an
> exercise and don't find something we can fix then I don't think we have
> looked hard enough. The same holds true of an analysis of a real event.
> Since we don't have crystal balls hindsight is all we can go on. And if
> we don't learn from past mistakes and oversights then you can be sure
> they'll be repeated. If one takes Katrina for example, many of the
> errors committed were already described after the Great Mississippi
> Flood of 1927 and the aftermath of Hurricane Hugo.
>
> I believe we should take the report in the spirit it was intended and
> heed the recommendations.
>
> Jeffrey Hammond MD, MPH
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Moore, Rick" <Rick.Moore at TriadHospitals.com>
>
> Date: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:04 am
>
> Subject: RE: Va Tech disaster recommendations
>
> > That is what irks me about these type of reports too. They have
> > all the
> > time in the world to review the situation after it happened and find
> > fault with the responders and the institution for not being completely
>
> > prepared to handle a situation that has never happened to them before.
>
> > They also keep making a big deal out of the fact that the shooter was
> > known to have psych problems but the world hadn't been warned
> > about him.
> > This is a glaring example of the great things that civil rights and
> > HIPAA has done for us.
> > REM
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> > [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Charlene M Morris
>
> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:53 AM
> > To: Trauma &amp, Critical Care mailing list
> > Cc: ccm-l at ccm-l.org
> > Subject: Re: Va Tech disaster recommendations
> >
> >
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