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Wed Nov 7 21:12:21 GMT 2007

I'm only saying, that with the headline and the quote by the other trauma surgeon, there was a negative spin on what is a positive outcome for a very difficult task.  I didn't mean to imply that Dr. Holcomb had a negative light shed on him, per se.  Had it not been for his quotes though...

I guess what I would really like to know is: what was the purpose of the article?  Really?  It didn't have much meat, if you know what I mean.  That's why I think the other surgeon may have an axe to grind.

RD

> From: rfsmithmd at comcast.net> To: trauma-list at trauma.org> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:47:43 -0500> Subject: RE: Army Trauma Medidine: NY Times> > If the NYTimes is like other newspapers, the guy who writes the story> doesn’t write the headline, which I thought was the negative sounding part.> I thought the article made it sound like Dr. Holcomb had accomplished a lot> of important and positive changes in the Army's Trauma System. He seemed> very focused and dedicated and I thought he repeatedly made the point that> it was imperative that the knowledge gained from this terrible experience be> used to improve trauma care for soldiers and civilians alike. I also thought> he sounded pretty forthcoming about the trials, the lack of strongly> positive data and his rationale for going ahead anyway. Artificial blood has> been a very difficult "Holy Grail" for a long time. Lots of previously> promising products have not panned out. To say the least.> > Rob Smith> > -----Original Message-----> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]> On Behalf Of Roy Danks> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 1:26 PM> To: Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list> Subject: RE: Army Trauma Medidine: NY Times> > > > This blog will likely generate a huge response, so clear your inbox out!> > I'm a huge proponent of Col Holcomb's. I've met the man and talked to him.> He is the consummate gentleman and a scholar among scholars.> > What is conspicuously missing from the NY Times article is the fact,> undisputable in my mind, that war, as horrible as it is, helps trauma> surgery/care make strides of nearly exponential gain. All wars have done> this. Look in the first chpt of Mattox's book...much is about the advances> of trauma surgery as it pertains to war.> > What Col Holcomb is doing in the war (not alone, of course) is making the> necessary adjustments in the midst of very trying and difficult> circumstances, with injuries that most of us outside of the armed forces> will see only a smattering of in our career.> > > Sounds to me like Dr. Shorr may have an axe to grind.> > If you've not read Mash, an Army Surgeon in Korea, Otto F. Apel, I strongly> recommend it. His early work on arterial "transplants" is in the book. Not> entirely ethical by today's standards, but certainly was a major> advancement.> > This war is going to take hits from all angles. I'll leave my 2 cents out.> But I support what the military surgeons, nurses, medics, etc are doing over> there 110%. The NY Times will slant anything they can away from the> positive if it advances their agenda.> > RRD> > > _________________________________________________________________> Climb to the top of the charts!  Play Star Shuffle:  the word scramble> challenge with star power.> http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct--> trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG> To change your settings or unsubscribe visit:> http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/> > --> trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG> To change your settings or unsubscribe visit:> http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/
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