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Ron,

You were in therapy for masturbation? How'd that work out for you?

Rob

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On Behalf Of Ronald Gross
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:48 PM
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Subject: RE: [ccm-l] "Sicko" premise

"It's harmless mental masturbation
unless it causes rifts among people of good will and hurts the list."

I do believe you have hit the nail on the head.  This sort of "mental
masturbation" does often hurt the list.  Just think; in Catholic school,
masturbation was condemned as a sin.  In therapy, I am told that it was
deemed to be healthy and would hurt no one.  In reality, it was
something to do when you just didn't have anyone that you cared enough
about to share your desires with.  

For what it is worth, I choose to pass on the mental masturbation
piece, and come what may, I would just as soon voice my opinions to
those I choose to have a relationship with, and hit the delete key for
the rest.

If that makes me smell like a pile of dog dirt, well I guess that no
one could ever accuse me of saying my pile don't stink!

OK - I will shut up now.

Be well and prosper,
Ron

>>> "William Bromberg" <brombwi1 at memorialhealth.com> 5/22/2007 1:25 PM
>>>
Well, now that you ask â€” both, really. 

It's a mistake  to post a review of a movie that you haven't seen if
only because it opens you up to the criticism already noted. 

OTOH, please, we've all seen the photos of the Cuban hospitals that
the
non-VIPs get to go to are really like (the URLs have been posted on
the
list before), they're appalling. We all know that Cuban refugees
regularly risk life and limb to swim, row, paddle, etc. to get to the
U.S. Anyone who has even remote interest in the accuracy of MMs films
knows that he routinely exaggerates, spins, and IMO lies (e.g. see
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm

, and http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html , etc. ). So do
I
think the movie will be worth the time and $8 â€” hell no.

That being said, MM preaches to the choir, the opposition opposes and
nobody changes their minds anyway. It's harmless mental masturbation
unless it causes rifts among people of good will and hurts the list.

My opinion, worth what it costs.

Bill

>>> "Ronald Gross" <Rgross at harthosp.org> 05/22/07 12:52 PM >>>
Hey Bill,

Which pile are you referring to????

Ron

>>> "William Bromberg" <brombwi1 at memorialhealth.com> 5/22/2007 12:47
PM
>>>
Seriously, how many times do you have to sniff dog dirt to make a
fairly solid prediction that the next pile STILL won't smell like
roses.

William J. Bromberg, MD, FACS
Chair, EAST Practice Management Guidelines Committee
Savannah Surgical Group
912 350-7412

>>> "Thomas Anthony Horan" <thoran at sarah.br> 05/21/07 6:12 PM >>>
Charles,

What a treat this topic has been, a forcefull K diatriabe against a
movie he has not seen, supported by someone who never will.

Such arrogance leaves me in awe.

Tom

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> c_brault at yahoo.com writes:
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> Especialyinthe sensethatthe USAas a disproportionate 
> problem  with:
> drinking while driving, drug misuse, availability of guns and  
other
weapons 
> especially when there is a mxture of ETOH, drugs, and   excitement,
driving 
> fast, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> We can all learn a valuable lesson from Australia. 
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