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trauma-list Digest, Vol 47, Issue 21

czuehlke at frontiernet.net czuehlke at frontiernet.net
Thu May 17 03:24:16 BST 2007


I've used them in two of the ER's that I work at! I find them to be  
quite handy and effective in massive volume replacement
Carol.


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>    1. Level 1 Fluid Infusor (caesar ursic)
>    2. Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (Krin135 at aol.com)
>    3. Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (kmattox at aol.com)
>    4. Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (Ronald Gross)
>    5. Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (KMATTOX at aol.com)
>    6. RE: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (Bjorn, Pret)
>    7. Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (caesar ursic)
>    8. RE: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (Ronald Gross)
>    9. RE: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (Offner, Patrick)
>   10. Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (MedicMikeUK at aol.com)
>   11. Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (p.bjorn at netzero.net)
>   12. Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (MARK FORREST)
>   13. Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (Ian Seppelt)
>   14. Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (ARS)
>   15. Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (ARS)
>   16. RE: Level 1 Fluid Infusor (Aruni Sen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:53:44 -0600
> From: "caesar ursic" <cmursic at gmail.com>
> Subject: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
> To: "Trauma &amp, Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Message-ID:
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> How many of you out there are using a Level
> 1<http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/level-1-h-1200.html>(or
> equivalent) fluid infusor in your emergency room?  Why or why not?
> How
> many have purchased a new one recently, or are contemplating such a
> purchase?  Why or why not?
> Regards,
> C. Ursic, MD
> Santa Fe
> USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:58:18 EDT
> From: Krin135 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
> Message-ID: <c11.1418bbe8.337b4eba at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>
> In a message dated 15-May-07 12:54:24 Central Daylight Time,
> cmursic at gmail.com writes:
>
> http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/_http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/level-
> 1-h-1200.html_
> (http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/level-1-h-1200.html)
>
> or http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/_http://tinyurl.com/y4jlxn_ (http://tinyurl.com/y4jlxn)
>
>
> for those who have trouble seeing the original link in Dr. Ursic's  post..
>
> and I doubt that I'll ever see one, much less use one...
>
> ck
> Charles S. Krin, DO FAAFP
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:09:46 +0000
> From: kmattox at aol.com
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
> To: "Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
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>
> We bought one when our hands were slapped because we did not have   
> one in opur EC.  That happened during a trauma center revoew.   We   
> have never used it in the EC and have rarely used it in OR.  It   
> makes a good coat rack.    These kind of devoices contribute to   
> fluid overload.
>
> K
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Krin135 at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:58:18
> To:trauma-list at trauma.org
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>
>
> In a message dated 15-May-07 12:54:24 Central Daylight Time,
> cmursic at gmail.com writes:
>
> http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/_http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/level-
> 1-h-1200.html_
> (http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/level-1-h-1200.html)
>
> or http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/_http://tinyurl.com/y4jlxn_ (http://tinyurl.com/y4jlxn)
>
>
> for those who have trouble seeing the original link in Dr. Ursic's  post..
>
> and I doubt that I'll ever see one, much less use one...
>
> ck
> Charles S. Krin, DO FAAFP
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:17:31 -0400
> From: "Ronald Gross" <Rgross at harthosp.org>
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
> To: "Critical Care mailing list Trauma &amp" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Message-ID: <4649C0FB.7FF1.00B9.0 at harthosp.org>
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> We have been using them for years, and will continue to use them.    
> Excellent high volume infusion of warmed fluids (electrolyte   
> solutions and blood).  Why do you ask?
>
> Ron
>
>>>> "caesar ursic" <cmursic at gmail.com> 5/15/2007 1:53 PM >>>
> How many of you out there are using a Level
> 1<http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/level-1-h-1200.html>(or
> equivalent) fluid infusor in your emergency room?  Why or why not?
> How
> many have purchased a new one recently, or are contemplating such a
> purchase?  Why or why not?
> Regards,
> C. Ursic, MD
> Santa Fe
> USA
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:22:19 EDT
> From: KMATTOX at aol.com
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
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> In a message dated 5/15/2007 1:19:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Rgross at harthosp.org writes:
>
> Excellent high volume infusion of warmed fluids (electrolyte solutions  and
> blood).  Why do you ask?
>
>
>
>
> We have moved away from high volume infusion of any electrolyte  solution.
> I agree that warmed blood and warmed FFP might be  one place where such a
> device might be helpful.   I have used it ONCE  as a extracorporal device for
> rewarming a patient with a fem-fem  setup.
>
> k
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:34:45 -0400
> From: "Bjorn, Pret" <pbjorn at emh.org>
> Subject: RE: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
> To: "Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
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> Take the pluses from Dr. Mattox, add them to the pluses from Dr. Gross.
> Our trauma room would seem empty without the Level-I.
>
> Pret Bjorn, RN
> Bangor, ME USA.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of KMATTOX at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:22 PM
> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>
>
> In a message dated 5/15/2007 1:19:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Rgross at harthosp.org writes:
>
> Excellent high volume infusion of warmed fluids (electrolyte solutions
> and
> blood).  Why do you ask?
>
>
>
>
> We have moved away from high volume infusion of any electrolyte
> solution.
> I agree that warmed blood and warmed FFP might be  one place where such
> a
> device might be helpful.   I have used it ONCE  as a extracorporal
> device for
> rewarming a patient with a fem-fem  setup.
>
> k
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 12:58:02 -0600
> From: "caesar ursic" <cmursic at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
> To: "Trauma &amp, Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
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> Pret:
> How often do you in-service your nurses on the Level 1's use?  Seems to me
> that since it probably isn't used that frequently, it's difficult to keep
> one's skill up to date (setting it up, trouble-shooting, etc).
>
> C. Ursic
> Santa Fe
> USA
>
>
>
> On 5/15/07, Bjorn, Pret <pbjorn at emh.org> wrote:
>>
>> Take the pluses from Dr. Mattox, add them to the pluses from Dr. Gross.
>> Our trauma room would seem empty without the Level-I.
>>
>> Pret Bjorn, RN
>> Bangor, ME USA.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
>> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of KMATTOX at aol.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:22 PM
>> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
>> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 5/15/2007 1:19:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> Rgross at harthosp.org writes:
>>
>> Excellent high volume infusion of warmed fluids (electrolyte solutions
>> and
>> blood).  Why do you ask?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We have moved away from high volume infusion of any electrolyte
>> solution.
>> I agree that warmed blood and warmed FFP might be  one place where such
>> a
>> device might be helpful.   I have used it ONCE  as a extracorporal
>> device for
>> rewarming a patient with a fem-fem  setup.
>>
>> k
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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> Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
> All mimsy were the borogoves,
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:03:43 -0400
> From: "Ronald Gross" <Rgross at harthosp.org>
> Subject: RE: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
> To: "Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Message-ID: <4649CBCF.7FF1.00B9.0 at harthosp.org>
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> And it DOES make a great coat rack in a pinch.......  ;-)
>
>>>> "Bjorn, Pret" <pbjorn at emh.org> 5/15/2007 2:34 PM >>>
> Take the pluses from Dr. Mattox, add them to the pluses from Dr. Gross.
> Our trauma room would seem empty without the Level-I.
>
> Pret Bjorn, RN
> Bangor, ME USA.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of KMATTOX at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:22 PM
> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>
>
> In a message dated 5/15/2007 1:19:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Rgross at harthosp.org writes:
>
> Excellent high volume infusion of warmed fluids (electrolyte solutions
> and
> blood).  Why do you ask?
>
>
>
>
> We have moved away from high volume infusion of any electrolyte
> solution.
> I agree that warmed blood and warmed FFP might be  one place where such
> a
> device might be helpful.   I have used it ONCE  as a extracorporal
> device for
> rewarming a patient with a fem-fem  setup.
>
> k
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:33:44 -0600
> From: "Offner, Patrick" <PatrickOffner at Centura.Org>
> Subject: RE: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
> To: "Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
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> We have one and use it in patients who require massive   
> transfusion--more so in the OR rather than in the ED. We also use it  
>  for continuous arterio-venous rewarming of hypothermic patients.
>
> Pat
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org on behalf of kmattox at aol.com
> Sent: Tue 5/15/2007 12:09 PM
> To: Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>
>
>
> We bought one when our hands were slapped because we did not have   
> one in opur EC.  That happened during a trauma center revoew.   We   
> have never used it in the EC and have rarely used it in OR.  It   
> makes a good coat rack.    These kind of devoices contribute to   
> fluid overload.
>
> K
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Krin135 at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:58:18
> To:trauma-list at trauma.org
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>
>
> In a message dated 15-May-07 12:54:24 Central Daylight Time,
> cmursic at gmail.com writes:
>
> http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/_http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/level-
> 1-h-1200.html_
> (http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/level-1-h-1200.html)
>
> or http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/_http://tinyurl.com/y4jlxn_ (http://tinyurl.com/y4jlxn)
>
>
> for those who have trouble seeing the original link in Dr. Ursic's  post..
>
> and I doubt that I'll ever see one, much less use one...
>
> ck
> Charles S. Krin, DO FAAFP
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:38:30 EDT
> From: MedicMikeUK at aol.com
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
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> Hi there
>
> We have one in our Resus room and 2 in our OR. We see a reasonable amount  of
> penetrating trauma, mainly stabbings so the resus room Level 1 does tend to
> get used quite often. In the OR we deal with a high number of high risk
> obstetric cases, and massive obstetric bleeds are not uncommon, so   
> again the OR
> level ones tend to get a fair bit of use. For normal fluid warming we use the
> hotline system also by Smiths.
>
> Both systems serve us very well and I cannot see us changing them in the
> foreseeable future.
>
> MIke
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:33:19 GMT
> From: "p.bjorn at netzero.net" <p.bjorn at netzero.net>
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
> Message-ID: <20070515.133410.14803.129974 at webmail14.dca.untd.com>
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> Use of the Level I is an annual competency for the nurses.  It's
> actually very simple, almost intuitive.  Nice design for its
> function.  It gets used quite often -- including pretty much all
> cases requiring transfusion.
>
> Pret
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 23:12:41 +0000 (GMT)
> From: MARK FORREST <atacc.doc at btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
> To: "Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
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> No place for level-1 in resus room unless you plan to operate there!  
>  If they are bleeding that much then they should be in the OR or at   
> least on the way. Takes time to set-up, delivers excessive amounts   
> of fluid and it slows down transport to theatre. Keep it in theatre!
> Mark F
> ATACC UK
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Offner, Patrick" <PatrickOffner at Centura.Org>
> To: "Trauma & Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 May, 2007 8:33:44 PM
> Subject: RE: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>
>
> We have one and use it in patients who require massive   
> transfusion--more so in the OR rather than in the ED. We also use it  
>  for continuous arterio-venous rewarming of hypothermic patients.
>
> Pat
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org on behalf of kmattox at aol.com
> Sent: Tue 5/15/2007 12:09 PM
> To: Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>
>
>
> We bought one when our hands were slapped because we did not have   
> one in opur EC.  That happened during a trauma center revoew.   We   
> have never used it in the EC and have rarely used it in OR.  It   
> makes a good coat rack.    These kind of devoices contribute to   
> fluid overload.
>
> K
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Krin135 at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:58:18
> To:trauma-list at trauma.org
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>
>
> In a message dated 15-May-07 12:54:24 Central Daylight Time,
> cmursic at gmail.com writes:
>
> http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/_http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/level-
> 1-h-1200.html_
> (http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/level-1-h-1200.html)
>
> or http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/_http://tinyurl.com/y4jlxn_ (http://tinyurl.com/y4jlxn)
>
>
> for those who have trouble seeing the original link in Dr. Ursic's  post..
>
> and I doubt that I'll ever see one, much less use one...
>
> ck
> Charles S. Krin, DO FAAFP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 08:49:04 +1000
> From: "Ian Seppelt" <SeppelI at wahs.nsw.gov.au>
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
> To: <cmursic at gmail.com>,	"Critical Care mailing list Trauma &amp"
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> Does anyone have a nice photo of the Level 1 used for its one validated
> indication [coat rack]? I need one for a talk - otherwise I'll have to
> go in to the operating theatre, try and find the device, clean off the
> dust, spider webs and pigeon droppings and take a photo myself.
>
> [Experience from a past life while training at St Elsewhere's --- very
> few theatre or ED nurses had any idea how to set up the level 1 and I
> would therefore spend time setting up and trouble shooting which would
> have been better spent paying attention to the patient, while
> overinfusing fluids the patient didn't benefit from anyway.]
>
> Cheers, Ian
>
> Ian Seppelt FANZCA FJFICM
> Senior Staff Specialist
> Dept of Intensive Care Medicine
> The Nepean Hospital, PO Box 63 Penrith NSW 2751
> Director of Clinical Research, Sydney West AHS
> Clinical Lecturer, University of Sydney
>
>>>> cmursic at gmail.com 16/05/2007 3:53am >>>
> How many of you out there are using a Level
> 1<http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/level-1-h-1200.html>(or
> equivalent) fluid infusor in your emergency room?  Why or why not?
> How
> many have purchased a new one recently, or are contemplating such a
> purchase?  Why or why not?
> Regards,
> C. Ursic, MD
> Santa Fe
> USA
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 01:40:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: ARS <traumajunkie63 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
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> we have our inservices every year with competencies
>   TJ
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> DO NOT RESUSITATE!!
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 01:44:10 -0700 (PDT)
> From: ARS <traumajunkie63 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
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> and somtimes when that gun shot would comes in...some sort of   
> stablization is required...our surgeons are int he trauma room   
> anyway and then when they say go you GO!!!!
>
> DO NOT RESUSITATE!!
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 11:58:05 +0100
> From: "Aruni Sen" <ARUNI.SEN at new-tr.wales.nhs.uk>
> Subject: RE: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
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> Not such an absolute truth.
>
> We do need level 1 very occasionally when transfusing pelvis after an
> exfix/compression has been put on - not for its speed of transfusion but
> for its efficacy in heating the blood.
>
> aruni sen
> wrexham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of MARK FORREST
> Sent: 16 May 2007 00:13
> To: Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>
> No place for level-1 in resus room unless you plan to operate there! If
> they are bleeding that much then they should be in the OR or at least on
> the way. Takes time to set-up, delivers excessive amounts of fluid and
> it slows down transport to theatre. Keep it in theatre!
> Mark F
> ATACC UK
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Offner, Patrick" <PatrickOffner at Centura.Org>
> To: "Trauma & Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 May, 2007 8:33:44 PM
> Subject: RE: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>
>
> We have one and use it in patients who require massive transfusion--more
> so in the OR rather than in the ED. We also use it for continuous
> arterio-venous rewarming of hypothermic patients.
>
> Pat
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> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org on behalf of kmattox at aol.com
> Sent: Tue 5/15/2007 12:09 PM
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> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>
>
>
> We bought one when our hands were slapped because we did not have one in
> opur EC.  That happened during a trauma center revoew.   We have never
> used it in the EC and have rarely used it in OR.  It makes a good coat
> rack.    These kind of devoices contribute to fluid overload.
>
> K
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Krin135 at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:58:18
> To:trauma-list at trauma.org
> Subject: Re: Level 1 Fluid Infusor
>
>
> In a message dated 15-May-07 12:54:24 Central Daylight Time,
> cmursic at gmail.com writes:
>
> http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/_http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/
> level-
> 1-h-1200.html_
> (http://www.smiths-medical.com/catalog/fluid-warming/fast-flow/hardware/
> level-1-h-1200.html)
>
> or http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-May/_http://tinyurl.com/y4jlxn_ (http://tinyurl.com/y4jlxn)
>
>
> for those who have trouble seeing the original link in Dr. Ursic's
> post..
>
> and I doubt that I'll ever see one, much less use one...
>
> ck
> Charles S. Krin, DO FAAFP
>
>
>
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