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I do not know the brands of cell phones and biomed claims their studies showed that it was the cell phones that did it.  the administration has a ban on them in the ICUS.  I am not sure if they have done any additional studies or not, but will find out

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From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org on behalf of Ronald Gross
Sent: Thu 3/15/2007 8:36 PM
To: trauma-list at trauma.org
Subject: Re: Study: No need to ban cell phones in hospitals

What studies have you done with your cell phone(s) and IVACs to confirm the implied guilt of equipment malfunction due to cell phone "emissions"?  Seems to me that you had the perfect opportunity - you could identify the cell phone that was used and the specific IVACs that went off......

>>> <rwolfer at aol.com> 03/15/07 1:03 PM >>>
we have had problems within the last year with IVACS in the NICU and PICU suddenly going to 999 in rate without numbers being changed. confirmed by biomed that pumps had been working fine before hand. It was noted after cell phones being used  close by.  Therefore, they are still banned here
Rebecca Wolfer, MD, FACS, FCCP
Associate Professor, Marshall University School of Medicine
Dept of Surgery
Director Thoracic Surgery
Director, Surgical Critical Care Cabell Huntington Hospital
Director, Trauma Cabell Huntington Hospital

-----Original Message-----
From: Krin135 at aol.com
To: trauma-list at trauma.org
Sent: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: Study: No need to ban cell phones in hospitals

In a message dated 3/11/2007 8:14:02 PM Central Daylight Time, 
htaed_rd at 123mail.org writes:

The  hospitals are afraid of allowing anything that was once banned -
what if  something bad did happen? Oh my!

well, from an Radio Frequency Interference standpoint, there was a point to 
the ban, 10 years ago, when bag phones could exceed 1 watt effective radiated 
power, and many telemetry systems operated on frequencies in close proximity
to  the analog cell phone frequencies...

More of a problem was present when most telemetry systems operated on the 
150-160 MHz bands shared with public service hand held radio services...those 
old Motorola 'bricks' could produce up to 3 watts of power, and a medic's or 
peace officer's radio could hash a whole telemetry wing.

with the much reduced power of the new digital phones, and the separation  of
most of the cell phone bands from the telemetry link bands, this is no longer
 a problem.

Same with the bans on pacemaker patients from microwave ovens...while still 
theoretically a risk, when was the last time you actually saw a patient who
had  a problem from microwave *oven* exposure?

ck
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