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Krin135 at aol.com Krin135 at aol.comFri Mar 9 15:37:27 GMT 2007
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In a message dated 3/9/2007 9:28:18 AM Central Standard Time, pbjorn at emh.org writes: I think the distinction lies in whether the primary exam has ENDED. If you subscribe as I do to the philosophy that the ABC's are sequential and absolute (no point moving to Breathing if the Airway isn't open...), then one can argue that a damage control laparotomy may the only way to stabilize Circulation before checking Disability, Exposing the patient, and so on. In the Trauma Nursing Core Course, we don't get where you want to be until the NINTH step ("Inspect the back"). Pret: While I agree to the step wise situation describe in both the TNCC and ATLS courses, the point remains that if you have determined that the patient needs to go to the OR, you still need to take some precautions to reduce the possibility of contamination of same. Also, I don't know about TNCC directly, but I do know that in the ATLS course, they also point out that while the steps need to go in order, more or less, there is no reason why some of them cannot be parallel processes if your team is large enough and you have enough equipment. You can provide manual stabilization of both the pelvis and the Cspine during the log roll, and that also gives you a chance to get that draw sheet under them and do a 10 second check of the prostate to see if you can safely insert the Foley that will help you judge urine output, which in turn gives you another measure of how stable the patient is. Since the hospitals I work at normally stabilize and ship patients, we don't have to worry about taking patients to the OR still in grubby cloths and on a back board. I'd think that there would be enough complications from doing that (between direct contamination, infections and tissue damage), that most OR teams will have to stop and do the log roll then...maybe without enough experienced people to properly manage all three stabilizations at once (c spine, airway and pelvis). ck Charles S. Krin, DO FAAFP <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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