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Krin135 at aol.com Krin135 at aol.comSat Mar 3 20:52:36 GMT 2007
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In a message dated 3/3/2007 11:09:30 AM Central Standard Time, KMATTOX at aol.com writes: Hospitals all over this country are not doing a triage prior to sending patients from an ambulance to the waiting room. In the case which prompted my post, an EMT was left on an ambulance stretcher in the waiting room for several hours with a diagnosis of appendicitis. k Sorry, Ken...re read that story again...in the material YOU quoted, the young lady WAS triaged x2 and was left in the waiting room for ONLY 2 hours before being seen by the doc and diagnosed with acute appendicitis. And she was in the waiting room and not on the EMS stretcher. Part of her complaint was that the EMS team did NOT stay with her, so there is evidence that she may have not been that acute when she arrived, or I would have hoped that the EMS team would have been more aggressive about getting the triage nurse to pay attention to the patient. Here's from the original quote again: <block quote> >From personal experience, I was left in the waiting room at Newton-Wellsley Hospital in Boston after arriving by ambulance. I was triaged 2x and finally admitted to the ED with acute appendicitis after 2 hours in the waiting room. The EMS crew did not stay with me. I guess I didn't look or act sick enough. </block quote> You and I both know that even in a moderately busy ED, a low suspicion belly pain could end up waiting for several hours before a doc laid hands on her. I personally strive for 2 hours from triage to disposition, but then, I can generally manage to avoid having multiple patients 'on floor hold' tying my beds up...something that many big city hospitals cannot avoid. I'll admit that a female of pregnancy age with belly pain should have a higher index of suspicion in the triage nurse's mind (because the chance of an impending rupture of an ectopic pg), but the facts as presented do not warrant a listing as a sentinel event. Was she mis triaged? Was she one of those smoldering cases? Among other things, the patient does not mention how long she waited after being seen to go to the OR for her appendectomy...I'd agree that this MAY have been a sentinel event if she immediately went to the OR for an open lap with drainage of a leaking appendix in a patient who could not walk, had a WBC of 19,000, and a fever of 101 with abdominal rigidity....I suspect that she was somewhat less acute than that. As you have said in the past, the plural of anecdote is not 'data'.... <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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