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Ronald Gross Rgross at harthosp.orgThu Jun 7 04:53:25 BST 2007
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YIKES! You are right - it must have been great to be 15 - but that was last century for me (or so it feels right about now!!) Coil the artery and vaccinate him in 2 weeks. >>> "caesar ursic" <cmursic at gmail.com> 6/6/2007 11:48 PM >>> Ron (Gross): look at the second cut on the CT. Ron (Simon): one cut above and two cuts below cut 2 shows the same interesting high-density blotch within the substance of the injury. Radiologist and I look at it for about five minutes in a darkened room, and we both agree that it must represent contrast extravasation. How weird, I think, since this kid looks so good 18 hours out of his injury. It pays to be 15 years old, I suppose.... here's the angio (one image tells the story): http://trauma.homestead.com/spleen_angio.html now what? On 6/6/07, Ronald Gross <Rgross at harthosp.org> wrote: > > Ceasar, > > This kid plays the same kind of non-contact football as the "no-hitting" > hockey I was palying a couple of years ago when I had 3 ribs broken by a > "non-hit" closing on the net. (PS - I did score!) > > Anyway, if NO cuts reveal any contrast extrav, and the kid remains stable, > I would keep him in house for a couple/three days, then home for a few days > more (total of 1 week on no activity after discharge). Embolize if any > extrav of IV contrast is seen, however. > > I know that there is no science to this, but I WOULD repeat a CT at 3-4 > months before I would let him back to either "non-contact contact" or real > contact sports! > > Just my 2 cents. What did you do? > > Best wishes, > Ron > > > > >>> "caesar ursic" <cmursic at gmail.com> 6/6/2007 9:57 PM >>> > Actual current case of mine: > > 15 yo male 'accidentally' tackled during spring football training (it was > supposed to be a 'no-contact' practice session, but...oh well.. ) He said > the blow 'knocked the wind out of me and hurt pretty bad." He went home > that afternoon feeling a bit 'weak' and tried to eat but could not. Slept > poorly due to pain in left upper abdomen/lower chest. Next morning in > more > pain, so mom takes him to our ER. He tells me his left upped belly hurts. > He's not hungry even though he skipped dinner and breakfast. > > His vital signs on arrival: BP 136/81 HR: 90 RR: 16 TEMP: 36.5 > > Exam: He looks pretty good, albeit worried. > Skin: warm, well perfused, No scleral icterus > Lungs: Equal breath sounds. > Chest: minimal tenderness over left lower anterior ribs > Heart: Normal heart tones. > Abdomen: non-distended, no bruises, bowel sounds present and normal. > Tender in LUQ with some voluntary guarding; other areas of abdomen are > NON-tender and soft. > Back and spine are normal. > Genitourinary exam: normal > Rectal exam: normal > > Hb: 13.9 g/dL (prior to any intravenous fluids). WBC 17,000. Serum > amylase > and lipase are normal. T. Bili: 2.1. ALT and AST: normal > > urinalysis: grossly clear (i.e. no gross hematuria), microscopy shows 5-10 > RBCs per high-power-field. > > CT scan of abdomen: selected cuts > here<http://trauma.homestead.com/spleen_ct.html>( > http://trauma.homestead.com/spleen_ct.html). Remainder of abdominal CT > shows > NO pneumoperitoneum, NO liver/kidney/pancreatic injury, NO oral contrast > extravasation, NO periduodenal fluid or thickened loops of > intestine. there > is some fluid in the pelvis and around the lower liver. > > Remember, this injury is now approx 18 hours old. His BP on repeated > determinations remains normal, and he is NOT tachycardic. > > How would you manage this patient? Next step(s)?? > > C. Ursic, MD > Santa Fe > USA > -- > trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ > > Confidentiality Notice > > This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary > information which is legally privileged. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please promptly contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy > all copies of the original message. > -- > trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ > -- 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/ Confidentiality Notice This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary information which is legally privileged. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please promptly contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
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